The grasping power of the mind is not a sense , unless of course you are speaking of consciousness which is behind all the senses including our understanding. But consciousness in itself is not God, it is a proof of Presence and the fact that we are emanations from a living entity and not a dead nothing. In fact if you look at the word "nothing " you see it is " no thing " that is neti , neti.
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:20 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > Heh well apart form the fact that I disagree on that one. > > Are not our senses instument in our understnding? That is without the > sense to sense, then our understanding is lacking. I'm thinking of > the old tale about the 5 blindmen and the elephant. > > On Jan 24, 2:37 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> Lee , what we see is not God but his creation.When our teachers say >> you are the Self we can understand It as an idea and not as a form >> which is visible to our sense. The concept of God is not visible to >> our senses but is grasped by our understanding. >> >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:41 PM, [email protected] >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > And yet that too makes little sense. >> >> > I think we can agree that God is all? >> >> > If this is true then, whatever I see is from God, and if I can see it, >> > then I must surly be using at least one of my senses to do so? >> >> > On Jan 21, 6:07 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> God is beyond the senses and not beyond the understanding. >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:33 PM, [email protected] >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Can you not see the contraditions in this statement RP? >> >> >> > How can God be above all pain, pleasure, sorrow and happines and yet >> >> > be in an eternal state of bliss? >> >> >> > Also going back to your previouse statement. >> >> >> > 'God is said to be nirguna , that is , without attributes. He has no >> >> > shape and hence cannot be seen or felt ; he has no sound and hence >> >> > cannot be heard , cannot be tasted or smelled. He is beyond awareness >> >> > and thus is non-dual , we beings are dualistic and have sprung from >> >> > that supreme Being who , though non-dualistic , is the source of all. >> >> > His is the state of supreme bliss which is beyond the senses. Whatever >> >> > we know and experience involves the senses and He is beyond the >> >> > senses.' >> >> >> > How can you know what state God is in if God is beyond our >> >> > understanding? Have you not just told us what it is you understand of >> >> > God's state? >> >> >> > On Jan 21, 2:39 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> It is individuals who bear pain and pleasure , sorrow and happiness ; >> >> >> God is above all this in an eternal state of supreme bliss. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Manfraco Frank Elder >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > Hi everybody! >> >> >> > So, you are back to talk about my favourite subject, the existence or >> >> >> > non existence of God. Because this religious subject interests me, I >> >> >> > hope you don't mind my popping in. >> >> >> > RP. Singh, your descreption of God and individual life is very close >> >> >> > to the way I believe it is, well said. I hope that this thread go on >> >> >> > for a while, it might be interesting to see what we may learn from >> >> >> > it. >> >> >> > Lee, when you say that, God is said to be many things by many people >> >> >> > you are right and we all see God in a different ways I agree with you >> >> >> > there. >> >> >> > Anyhow I have my own beliefs about God, so, I am writing my own >> >> >> > theory >> >> >> > about God and religions, my theory at this stage is only half >> >> >> > written, >> >> >> > I will have a complete sketch of it in a few months, however if you >> >> >> > would like to find out what I am writing click on the link hereunder, >> >> >> > and follow the links that you find in my site. >> >> >> >https://sites.google.com/site/prayersofreconciliation/ >> >> >> > Hoping that my link works for you, >> >> >> > Let me know what you think if you read my religious writings >> >> >> > Manfraco >> >> >> >> > On Jan 20, 8:45 pm, "[email protected]" >> >> >> > <[email protected]> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Heh yes of course. But God is said to be many things by many >> >> >> >> people. >> >> >> >> Some say there is no God, some say that God is called Allah, some >> >> >> >> say >> >> >> >> that all Gods are but aspects of the one God. >> >> >> >> >> What one may belive of God is of course up to the individual. What >> >> >> >> you claim must be true, or so you belive, but I belive otherwise. >> >> >> >> Now >> >> >> >> how to tell what truth is objective huh! >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 19, 7:15 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > God is said to be nirguna , that is , without attributes. He has >> >> >> >> > no >> >> >> >> > shape and hence cannot be seen or felt ; he has no sound and >> >> >> >> > hence >> >> >> >> > cannot be heard , cannot be tasted or smelled. He is beyond >> >> >> >> > awareness >> >> >> >> > and thus is non-dual , we beings are dualistic and have sprung >> >> >> >> > from >> >> >> >> > that supreme Being who , though non-dualistic , is the source of >> >> >> >> > all. >> >> >> >> > His is the state of supreme bliss which is beyond the senses. >> >> >> >> > Whatever >> >> >> >> > we know and experience involves the senses and He is beyond the >> >> >> >> > senses. >> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:05 PM, [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > > I almost agree with you RP. But of course it is possible to >> >> >> >> > > experiance such bliss whilst still alive, not easy, but >> >> >> >> > > possible. >> >> >> >> >> > > On Jan 19, 2:49 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> All are different , some are incompetent , some competent; >> >> >> >> > >> some are >> >> >> >> > >> fools , others are brilliant ; some are esteemed , others >> >> >> >> > >> despicable; >> >> >> >> > >> and so on and on. But in reality all are equal as all are made >> >> >> >> > >> from >> >> >> >> > >> the One , Godself , and to that Godself all eventually go and >> >> >> >> > >> find >> >> >> >> > >> eternal peace , the supreme bliss which can be understood but >> >> >> >> > >> never >> >> >> >> > >> experienced while in this body.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> >> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text -
