God is an abstract idea and can be sensed by the few who have intuition , by the rest He can be grasped by the understanding. An Idea is far bigger than the body and so don't be disturbed.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 5:50 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > No my friend, I refer to the idea that our senses sense and our brain > interprets this sense data. > > Without our senses we would have ahard time indeed gathering > knowledge. Unless of course you look upon God as an abstract idea? > > Myself I see, hence I sense Gods presance throughout the creation. > Wthout this sensing then ouir knowledge would indeed lack something. > > I mentioned the old tale of the 5 blind men and the elephant, I assume > you know this? > > On Jan 24, 6:03 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> The grasping power of the mind is not a sense , unless of course you >> are speaking of consciousness which is behind all the senses including >> our understanding. But consciousness in itself is not God, it is a >> proof of Presence and the fact that we are emanations from a living >> entity and not a dead nothing. In fact if you look at the word >> "nothing " you see it is " no thing " that is neti , neti. >> >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:20 PM, [email protected] >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Heh well apart form the fact that I disagree on that one. >> >> > Are not our senses instument in our understnding? That is without the >> > sense to sense, then our understanding is lacking. I'm thinking of >> > the old tale about the 5 blindmen and the elephant. >> >> > On Jan 24, 2:37 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Lee , what we see is not God but his creation.When our teachers say >> >> you are the Self we can understand It as an idea and not as a form >> >> which is visible to our sense. The concept of God is not visible to >> >> our senses but is grasped by our understanding. >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:41 PM, [email protected] >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > And yet that too makes little sense. >> >> >> > I think we can agree that God is all? >> >> >> > If this is true then, whatever I see is from God, and if I can see it, >> >> > then I must surly be using at least one of my senses to do so? >> >> >> > On Jan 21, 6:07 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> God is beyond the senses and not beyond the understanding. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:33 PM, [email protected] >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > Can you not see the contraditions in this statement RP? >> >> >> >> > How can God be above all pain, pleasure, sorrow and happines and yet >> >> >> > be in an eternal state of bliss? >> >> >> >> > Also going back to your previouse statement. >> >> >> >> > 'God is said to be nirguna , that is , without attributes. He has no >> >> >> > shape and hence cannot be seen or felt ; he has no sound and hence >> >> >> > cannot be heard , cannot be tasted or smelled. He is beyond awareness >> >> >> > and thus is non-dual , we beings are dualistic and have sprung from >> >> >> > that supreme Being who , though non-dualistic , is the source of all. >> >> >> > His is the state of supreme bliss which is beyond the senses. >> >> >> > Whatever >> >> >> > we know and experience involves the senses and He is beyond the >> >> >> > senses.' >> >> >> >> > How can you know what state God is in if God is beyond our >> >> >> > understanding? Have you not just told us what it is you understand >> >> >> > of >> >> >> > God's state? >> >> >> >> > On Jan 21, 2:39 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> It is individuals who bear pain and pleasure , sorrow and happiness >> >> >> >> ; >> >> >> >> God is above all this in an eternal state of supreme bliss. >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Manfraco Frank Elder >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Hi everybody! >> >> >> >> > So, you are back to talk about my favourite subject, the >> >> >> >> > existence or >> >> >> >> > non existence of God. Because this religious subject interests >> >> >> >> > me, I >> >> >> >> > hope you don't mind my popping in. >> >> >> >> > RP. Singh, your descreption of God and individual life is very >> >> >> >> > close >> >> >> >> > to the way I believe it is, well said. I hope that this thread go >> >> >> >> > on >> >> >> >> > for a while, it might be interesting to see what we may learn from >> >> >> >> > it. >> >> >> >> > Lee, when you say that, God is said to be many things by many >> >> >> >> > people >> >> >> >> > you are right and we all see God in a different ways I agree with >> >> >> >> > you >> >> >> >> > there. >> >> >> >> > Anyhow I have my own beliefs about God, so, I am writing my own >> >> >> >> > theory >> >> >> >> > about God and religions, my theory at this stage is only half >> >> >> >> > written, >> >> >> >> > I will have a complete sketch of it in a few months, however if >> >> >> >> > you >> >> >> >> > would like to find out what I am writing click on the link >> >> >> >> > hereunder, >> >> >> >> > and follow the links that you find in my site. >> >> >> >> >https://sites.google.com/site/prayersofreconciliation/ >> >> >> >> > Hoping that my link works for you, >> >> >> >> > Let me know what you think if you read my religious writings >> >> >> >> > Manfraco >> >> >> >> >> > On Jan 20, 8:45 pm, "[email protected]" >> >> >> >> > <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Heh yes of course. But God is said to be many things by many >> >> >> >> >> people. >> >> >> >> >> Some say there is no God, some say that God is called Allah, >> >> >> >> >> some say >> >> >> >> >> that all Gods are but aspects of the one God. >> >> >> >> >> >> What one may belive of God is of course up to the individual. >> >> >> >> >> What >> >> >> >> >> you claim must be true, or so you belive, but I belive >> >> >> >> >> otherwise. Now >> >> >> >> >> how to tell what truth is objective huh! >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 19, 7:15 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > God is said to be nirguna , that is , without attributes. He >> >> >> >> >> > has no >> >> >> >> >> > shape and hence cannot be seen or felt ; he has no sound and >> >> >> >> >> > hence >> >> >> >> >> > cannot be heard , cannot be tasted or smelled. He is beyond >> >> >> >> >> > awareness >> >> >> >> >> > and thus is non-dual , we beings are dualistic and have sprung >> >> >> >> >> > from >> >> >> >> >> > that supreme Being who , though non-dualistic , is the source >> >> >> >> >> > of all. >> >> >> >> >> > His is the state of supreme bliss which is beyond the senses. >> >> >> >> >> > Whatever >> >> >> >> >> > we know and experience involves the senses and He is beyond the >> >> >> >> >> > senses. >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:05 PM, [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > > I almost agree with you RP. But of course it is possible to >> >> >> >> >> > > experiance such bliss whilst still alive, not easy, but >> >> >> >> >> > > possible. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > On Jan 19, 2:49 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> All are different , some are incompetent , some competent; >> >> >> >> >> > >> some are >> >> >> >> >> > >> fools , others are brilliant ; some are esteemed , others >> >> >> >> >> > >> despicable; >> >> >> >> >> > >> and so on and on. But in reality all are equal as all are >> >> >> >> >> > >> made from >> >> >> >> >> > >> the One , Godself , and to that Godself all eventually go >> >> >> >> >> > >> and find >> >> >> >> >> > >> eternal peace , the supreme bliss which can be understood >> >> >> >> >> > >> but never >> >> >> >> >> > >> experienced while in this body.- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> >> >> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text -
