In short Lee, your apparent demand to be able to say words that offend others is a stance that flies against morality in general. Of course, we have had these discussions numerous times. You now seem to be claiming that people’s attachment to property is more important than people’s attachment to social niceties. You will comply with the former and not the latter. Yes, this is true subjectivity!
On Aug 9, 8:16 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > Okay OM I'll play. > > Which examples have you for me of my compliantsey? > > Morality being wholey subjective indeed I find no immorality with my > use of what some would term vulgar language. > > My passions are of course neither blind and well thought out. > > Morality as I say is wholey subjective and so mine says I will not > take or destroy property that does not belong to me, yes I would call > that a moral stance would you not? > > On Aug 9, 4:06 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Let’s see…to not publically display vehement disregard for draconian > > policies, in effect being compliant and going along with institutions > > that are anti-human and against humanity is being ‘moral’. And, on the > > other hand, following one’s own blind ignorant passions and using > > language with impunity is being ‘moral’ too. I just don’t get it. > > > On Aug 9, 6:40 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Indeed, but my strong morality forbis that! > > > > On Aug 9, 12:34 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Or you could loot and rob which is the current sport. > > > > > On Aug 8, 6:35 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I'm in the UK Allen. But as I say this suits me, I don';t want > > > > > credit, I don't require deit either. I trust the cash I have in my > > > > > hand and if I have not enough cash for a purchase, then I'll saveup or > > > > > go without. > > > > > > On Aug 5, 8:55 pm, Allan Heretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Not sure what country you live and bank in even the U S has > > > > > > ATM/debit cards. Because people do not know how to use them.. That > > > > > > is another story,, what I would suggest is go and talk to your > > > > > > banker about just everything your ATM card > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > On 5 aug. 2011, at 14:58, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hehh as I say though, my ATM card allows me to do one thing and > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > thing only, take money out the ATM. It is not a debit card at > > > > > > > all. > > > > > > > > I have one bank account, and in reality it is the same old > > > > > > > building > > > > > > > sociaty savings acount I had since I was a little kid. So no > > > > > > > current > > > > > > > account, no credit or debit, no cheque book, I deal in cash and > > > > > > > cash > > > > > > > only. > > > > > > > > On Aug 5, 1:31 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> you mean you do not buy your groceries using your ATM card? > > > > > > >> actually I > > > > > > >> know that you can take your ATM card and use it at the grocery > > > > > > >> or any other > > > > > > >> store for that matter that is how business is transacted either > > > > > > >> that or > > > > > > >> cash.. there is no such thing as checks.. > > > > > > >> your ATM card in reality is also a debit card,, all though it > > > > > > >> is not a > > > > > > >> credit card/ debit it is an ATM/debit card.. > > > > > > >> ideal is very popular over here but it is a local dutch system > > > > > > >> involving > > > > > > >> dutch banks only very cool and safe.. > > > > > > >> Allan > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Lee Douglas > > > > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>> Ahhh Allan, that may be the case for you, but it is not for me. > > > > > > >>> I do > > > > > > >>> have an ATM card, but it is not a debit card also. > > > > > > > >>> On Aug 5, 7:49 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> Lee if you have that little card issued by the bank so you > > > > > > >>>> can get your > > > > > > >>>> cash out of a machine that is a debit card then you have > > > > > > >>>> one..and it > > > > > > >>> limits > > > > > > >>>> you to the cash you have on hand.. Personally I like the > > > > > > >>>> electronic > > > > > > >>>> banking here in the Netherlands it and the banking system is > > > > > > >>>> very > > > > > > >>>> excellent.. I personally have no credit cards either just do > > > > > > >>>> not like > > > > > > >>>> them.. My wife has one for emergencies but that is it. > > > > > > >>>> Allan > > > > > > > >>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:25 PM, Lee Douglas > > > > > > >>>> <[email protected] > > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>> Well Allan, > > > > > > > >>>>> That is exatly the point. I have no credit or debit cards. > > > > > > >>>>> I do it > > > > > > >>>>> on porpouse, I do not wish to live beyond my means. I mean > > > > > > >>>>> of course > > > > > > >>>>> that if I have not the ready cash to pay for somthing, then I > > > > > > >>>>> would > > > > > > >>>>> rather go without it, than owe somebody money for it. > > > > > > > >>>>> Yes this means that if I do not have the cash to pay for > > > > > > >>>>> something > > > > > > >>>>> then I go without it until I can afford to pay for it. But > > > > > > >>>>> really > > > > > > >>>>> this is the best thing for me. My will power is nil, I have a > > > > > > >>>>> massivly addictive personality, so it is best for me to live > > > > > > >>>>> this way, > > > > > > >>>>> if I can't afford it, I will do without it, if I have the > > > > > > >>>>> cash then I > > > > > > >>>>> will have what I want. Credit, debit no no no, don't take a > > > > > > >>>>> chance on > > > > > > >>>>> me with that coz I will fuck you up. And of course by > > > > > > >>>>> fucking you up, > > > > > > >>>>> I'll fuck myself up. > > > > > > > >>>>> No no no, it is easy. If I want something and I have not the > > > > > > >>>>> cash to > > > > > > >>>>> pay for it then I'll save until I do have the cash. Take > > > > > > >>>>> something > > > > > > >>>>> now and pay for it later! Are you fucking mad? I'll fucking > > > > > > >>>>> knock ya > > > > > > >>>>> mate, don't give me credit, it will get you and me in > > > > > > >>>>> trouble. No no > > > > > > >>>>> no, no cash no purchase. > > > > > > > >>>>> This is the way I must live my life. > > > > > > > >>>>> On Aug 4, 8:31 pm, allan deheretic <[email protected]> > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>> Lee to bad you don't live over here yu would just transfer > > > > > > >>>>>> the money > > > > > > >>> to > > > > > > >>>>>> their bank account via a ATM or Debit card depending what > > > > > > >>>>>> you call > > > > > > >>> it,, > > > > > > >>>>>> then the send you the package or you pic it up. > > > > > > >>>>>> no need to use a credit card electronic banking can be > > > > > > >>>>>> great.. > > > > > > >>>>>> Allan > > > > > > > >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Lee Douglas > > > > > > >>>>>> <[email protected] > > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>> I don't e-bay myself Rigsy, I don't do credit and so have > > > > > > >>>>>>> no cards. > > > > > > > >>>>>>> As to the supper rich, what is the uses of keeping millions > > > > > > >>>>>>> in the > > > > > > >>>>>>> bank? I mean you can't spend it all before you die, you > > > > > > >>>>>>> can't take > > > > > > >>> it > > > > > > >>>>>>> with you, so I guess you leave it to the kids, and then > > > > > > >>>>>>> they still > > > > > > >>>>>>> wont be able to spend it all, nor their kids. > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Money simply does not 'trickle down', those who have vast > > > > > > >>>>>>> ammounts > > > > > > >>> of > > > > > > >>>>>>> it do all they can to keep it, and I can see no logical > > > > > > >>>>>>> reasons for > > > > > > >>>>>>> doing so. Share the wealth, yes indeed. > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Materialism, yes I guess you are right, although I hope > > > > > > >>>>>>> not. I > > > > > > >>> think > > > > > > >>>>>>> whne the day comes when the whole world is fed and has a > > > > > > >>>>>>> nice pile > > > > > > >>> of > > > > > > >>>>>>> stuff it may cease to be so important. Once again I must > > > > > > >>>>>>> declare > > > > > > >>>>>>> 'Robot Work Force' Yeah baby come on, I hope I see the day. > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 1:01 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Have you checked out e-bay? Plus the super-rich have not > > > > > > >>>>>>>> changed > > > > > > >>>>> their > > > > > > >>>>>>>> desires/shopping patterns as far as I can tell. It will be > > > > > > >>> difficult/ > > > > > > >>>>>>>> impossible to inhibit materialism as it springs from > > > > > > >>>>>>>> insecurity > > > > > > >>> or > > > > > > >>>>>>>> hostility and is held as a positive value in a capitalist > > > > > > >>> society. In > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a sense, we "barter" cash for goods and services. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 9:47 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Indeed I am, I don't think bartering is a viable option. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 2:51 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> You are talking about the super-rich. Money attracts > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> thieves > > > > > > >>> and > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> lawyers. Most want money to remain independent and "just > > > > > > >>> enough" > > > > > > >>>>> is > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> just fine. We could barter. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 6:44 am, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Meh! It's all the same ole same ole innit . > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> It's greed plain and simple, I think how much money does > > > > > > >>> one > > > > > > >>>>> perosn > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> need to libe as they wish. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Why do the extreamly rich do all they can to keep their > > > > > > >>> money, > > > > > > >>>>> I > > > > > > >>>>>>> mean > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> what are they going to do with it? > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Ultimatly we must find a better way, a replacement for > > > > > > >>> material > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> wealth, and get rid of the whole concept of money. How > > > > > > >>> though > > > > > > >>>>>>> ummmm? > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:43 am, allan deheretic <[email protected]> > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Rigsy,, boy are you a sensitive extreme conservative > > > > > > >>>>> republican > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> as president Rosevelt put it.. a conservative a person > > > > > > >>> with > > > > > > >>>>> two > > > > > > >>>>>>> perfectly > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> good legs and refuses to walk... > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> all wealthy people have no right to live off the > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> poor... > > > > > > >>>>> they > > > > > > >>>>>>> all > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> regardless of political view or party need to pay their > > > > > > >>> share > > > > > > >>>>> of > > > > > > >>>>>>> taxes! > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> don't tell me that they create job because they don't. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> as for people sending money to relatives.. you put a > > > > > > >>> maximum > > > > > > >>>>>>> that can be > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> sent tax free. say > > ... > > read more »
