So- who voted the Congress into power? Who is attracted to politics? Why?
On Oct 26, 11:34 am, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > Members of Congress who are millionaires ? Nearly 50 percent. > > Millionaires in the country ? About 1 percent of the population. > > Doesn't seem the US Congress is representative of the population at > all ! > > On Oct 26, 4:45 pm, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Oh yeah Richard,, unfortunately politics is heavily influnced > > by corporate bribery and wealthy individuals who leave me wondering if they > > care about their money or the people they are supposed to care for and look > > after there interest. > > Politicians seem to have a creed that was pointed out earlier by a member > > of this group. Politicians seem to say one thing then do something entirely > > different. > > Allan > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:25 PM, richard blay <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Perfectly, Allan, on the part of the politicians. until part of the > > > solution is done, which is your idea on board, the situation will ever > > > remain as it is...even worse. > > > > On 10/26/11, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Politicians have truths that apply to everyone else except them. and > > > > they > > > > never feel the sting of the whip. > > > > I know over here the politicians doubled their salaries just before > > > > the financial crash, not surprising though the pay raise was never > > > removed > > > > the extra income, so they live at twice the wage while no pay raises > > > not > > > > even cost of living for public employees like fire department , Police > > > > people or others.. > > > > > I am sure that if you look the same thing has happened in your country > > > > no > > > > matter which one it is.. Politicians seem to be acting on their own > > > > behalf and those of their rich friends.. > > > > > Maybe all politicians should be put on minimum wage with no assistance > > > > from friend or family.. with only services of public > > > > assistance available to them and their family. I do know something > > > > needs > > > > to be done to bring this political privilege under control.. maybe a > > > > better way to put it is get control of the out right bribery. > > > > Allan > > > > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:09 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> I tend to like the idea too Allan - one way to the positive is to do. > > > >> In the more intellectual sense, getting to the positive (which has > > > >> many definitions) usually means stripping away loads of dross. In the > > > >> process one usually finds the dross is cherished and part of the > > > >> reason nothing can ever get done! > > > > >> One aspect of all the nonsense of current economic utterings that > > > >> makes me laugh at the moment (or is it cry?) is the idea of raising > > > >> pension age in order to save money - this is full of assumptions that > > > >> there re jobs to do, that clinging to one doesn't prevent someone else > > > >> doing it and so on. > > > > >> On Oct 25, 8:19 am, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > Lol do I start with you Gabby? I would not want to push people. If > > > they > > > >> > wanted to contribute it would be great. A larger starting point, but > > > >> > nothing beyond their means though. > > > > >> > I can not help but wonder how it will evolve, I am sure it will be > > > >> > interesting, > > > >> > Allan > > > >> > On Oct 25, 2011 9:03 AM, "gabbydott" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > > I quite like your idea, Allan. You've got my vote to keep on trying > > > to > > > >> > > persuade the others to see if they have some 100 Euros to spare. > > > > >> > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Allan H <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > >> I know Neil it is but a pittance that is what so funny about > > > >> > >> it.. > > > >> > >> I > > > >> > >> think the problem lies in the short term,, Maybe that is what it > > > >> should > > > >> > >> be called is the pittance fund.. > > > >> > >> Money is a problem because it is guided by people who's interests > > > is > > > >> self > > > >> > >> centered. creating the pittance fund,, then we have the time and > > > >> > >> possibility to get it to grow.. and provide the long term > > > >> > >> guidance > > > >> to make > > > >> > >> it successful over 500 plus years where it would reach the size.. > > > at > > > >> witch > > > >> > >> time the pittance fund would be as powerful or more powerful than > > > the > > > >> other > > > >> > >> markets.. it takes for sight.. > > > >> > >> What I am saying by putting up my 100 Euro is that our combined > > > >> > >> wisdom > > > >> > >> and knowledge exceeds that of the normal public. it would be > > > chance > > > >> to put > > > >> > >> our theories into practice.. Even if we fail we have tried and can > > > >> not be > > > >> > >> faulted for that.. but I do not think that will happen,, > > > >> > >> Allan > > > > >> > >> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:54 AM, archytas <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > >>> If you do any radical thinking at all you should at least guess > > > >> > >>> money > > > >> > >>> may be as much of a problem as an asset Allan. The money in our > > > >> > >>> pockets, under your mattress and in current accounts is dwarfed > > > >> > >>> by > > > >> the > > > >> > >>> same currency in the derivatives and other shadow markets. What > > > we > > > >> > >>> should focus on is how we can build through effort and > > > organisation. > > > > >> > >>> On Oct 25, 12:39 am, Vam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > >>> > Find out ( Chris ? ) what it takes to register a formal NGO > > > Trust > > > >> > >>> > ( with Tax benefits and Donations tax-exempt ) operating a news > > > - > > > >> > >>> > magazine website ... > > > > >> > >>> > WE THE PEOPLE : ALTERNATE NEWS, RECLAIMING EFFORTS & REDEFINED > > > >> > >>> > THOUGHTS FROM AROUND THE WORLD... > > > > >> > >>> > We then can pool in people centered news, efforts at reclaiming > > > >> > >>> > our > > > >> > >>> > lives and freedoms, and path breaking thoughts from all over > > > >> > >>> > the > > > >> world > > > >> > >>> > in diverse fields such as science, medicine, sociology, > > > >> > >>> > psychology, > > > >> > >>> > economics, management, public service, governance, > > > >> entrepreneurship... > > > >> > >>> > along lines of " Global Voices "... overseen by a crack > > > Editorial > > > >> > >>> > Team. > > > > >> > >>> > We may then perhaps know what it would take... what more would > > > >> have to > > > >> > >>> > be scrounged and how... > > > > >> > >>> > On Oct 24, 10:35 pm, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > >>> > > it is because it is compounded ,, i figured it at > > > >> > >>> > > annual interest payment.. if you take your principle and > > > >> > >>> immediately add > > > >> > >>> > > the interest you have increased your principle by that > > > amount.. > > > >> a > > > >> > >>> hundred > > > >> > >>> > > euro becomes 104 Euro.. > > > > >> > >>> > > to demonstrate the effect if you are paying off the > > > >> > >>> > > mortgage > > > >> > >>> > > on > > > >> > >>> your > > > >> > >>> > > house in say 15 years,, making a monthly payment,, if you > > > >> split > > > >> > >>> the > > > >> > >>> > > payment in half paying the loan 1/2 on the 1st and the other > > > 1/2 > > > >> on > > > >> > >>> the > > > >> > >>> > > 15th.. remember you are paying exactly the same amount each > > > >> month,, > > > >> > >>> > > instead of taking 15 years to pay the loan it will take you > > > >> only 13 > > > >> > >>> 1/2 > > > >> > >>> > > years to pay it back.. > > > > >> > >>> > > If your payment was say $1,000. (no Euro sign) you would be > > > >> saving > > > >> > >>> your > > > >> > >>> > > self $18,000. in payments.. not a bad piece of pocket change > > > >> > >>> > > you > > > >> > >>> ask me.. > > > > >> > >>> > > Does that help you understand they power of money if used > > > >> > >>> intelligently and > > > >> > >>> > > effectively? > > > >> > >>> > > Allan > > > > >> > >>> > > RP could you see a company that simply made house payments?? > > > >> they > > > >> > >>> pay you > > > >> > >>> > > once a month and you pay the Bankster 2X a month?? > > > > >> > >>> > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:19 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > >>> > > > Again , Allan , I don't see how 100 euros grow so > > > >> astronomically > > > >> > >>> at a > > > >> > >>> > > > simple rate of interest of 4% ? > > > > >> > >>> > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Allan H < > > > [email protected] > > > > >> > >>> wrote: > > > >> > >>> > > > > Okay I have been doing a lot of thinking ... well I am > > > sure > > > >> > >>> there are > > > >> > >>> > > > > enough good ideas that can radically change the world.. > > > >> Oddly I > > > >> > >>> really > > > >> > >>> > > > do > > > >> > >>> > > > > not think it will take massive amounts,, but it will > > > >> > >>> > > > > take > > > >> some > > > >> > >>> funds > > > >> > >>> > > > and I > > > >> > >>> > > > > have a lot of faith in our group to be able to develop > > > >> workable > > > >> > >>> ideas.. > > > >> > >>> > > > > Now to put my money with my mouth is even though I do not > > > >> have > > > >> > >>> massive > > > >> > >>> > > > > amounts of money I can easily contribute 100 Euro to > > > commit > > > >> to > > > >> > >>> a fund to > > > >> > >>> > > > > change the world.. I do not know if others are willing > > > >> > >>> > > > > to > > > >> > >>> develop a > > > >> > >>> > > > world > > > >> > >>> > > > > improvement fund. as I know this discussion will go one > > > for > > > >> > >>> years after > > > >> > >>> > > > we > > > >> > >>> > > > > are gone I could for see it still in existence 500 > > > >> > >>> > > > > onward.. > > > >> > >>> > > > > there needs to be unchangeable able rules like > > > >> > >>> > > > > The principle can not be spent.. > > > >> > >>> > > > > No more than 20 % of the income can be spent on fund > > > >> > >>> administration. > > > >> > >>> > > > > 20 % of the income generated must be added to the > > > principle > > > >> > >>> every year, > > > >> > >>> > > > (or > > > >> > >>> > > > > more often) > > > >> > >>> > > > > How the 60 % well .. some types of projects just do not > > > make > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
