well Lee I am some what wrong I remembered the charismatic christian and that is a step forward,, but then they to have been around not as widely recognized. Allan
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: > I know you dis agree .. birth control and woman bishops effectively no more > than administration. How has those events changing the theology? They still > strickly following the rules unchanged since early centuries > Allan > > Matrix ** th3 beginning light > > On Dec 7, 2012 1:35 PM, "Lee Douglas" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> You are joking right Allan? >> >> The changes are only in administration? So Catholics the world over are >> not using contraception in spite of what the pope says? No such change I >> think is driven and will be further driven by the faiths followers more than >> it's leaders. When the new Arch Bishop of Canterbury leaves his new post >> any changes that he has affected will still be there, one day woman Bishops >> will be common place, despite any changes in administration. >> >> Besides if you think of religous ideas in the same way as any and all >> other ideas, then it is clear to see that such ideas will evolve or die. We >> no longer belive that the Earth is the center of the universe, that right >> there is a dead religous idea. Yet Catholosism is still very much with us, >> and that right there is an example of evolotion of the idea rather than the >> admisistration. >> On Friday, 7 December 2012 11:40:07 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>> >>> The changes are only in administration,, to me that is not evolutionary >>> type change >>> Allan >>> >>> Matrix ** th3 beginning light >>> >>> On Dec 7, 2012 11:51 AM, "Lee Douglas" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hahah maybey, maybe. I am though the eternal optimist so I see things >>>> differantly. >>>> >>>> The Anglican church in particular are making some good moves. >>>> >>>> There are though only two things I wish to comment on at this momnet. >>>> >>>> My career in IT support thus far informs me that people do seem to have >>>> an inbuilt resistance to change, and ultimatly the Christian church in >>>> particular but of course all other dogmatic religions need to change or >>>> they >>>> risk dieing out. >>>> On Friday, 7 December 2012 10:02:37 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>> >>>>> From what I have seen it does evolve.. it seems mostly in the >>>>> negative directions.. probably because of greed and a desire to >>>>> control rather than spirituality.. there are exceptions but they are >>>>> rare. >>>>> Allan >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Lee Douglas <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > And in truth Allan religion does evolove, perhaps slowly but evolove >>>>> > it >>>>> > does. >>>>> > >>>>> > On Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:21:35 UTC, Allan Heretic wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I think that religion should evolve..just like the rest of the >>>>> >> universe.. when the evolution stops it begins to die.. a good >>>>> >> example >>>>> >> of dead beliefs is those our fundamentalist friend is presenting. >>>>> >> Recite the magickal incantation and and every thing will be all >>>>> >> right.. this statement to me is one of a dead faith' >>>>> >> Allan >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:31 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >> > Biology is describing a 'co-evolution arms race'. Religious >>>>> >> > notions >>>>> >> > of the eternal have a lot in common with Popper's 'World 3' and >>>>> >> > what >>>>> >> > we can regard as 'objective' and 'factual' I'm as sure as you >>>>> >> > about >>>>> >> > the 'meanness' you often describe and believe the way through it, >>>>> >> > past >>>>> >> > it, whatever - is spiritual - maybe a kind of dawning. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > There's a joke in the new Batman film (other 2 hours plus rubbish) >>>>> >> > - >>>>> >> > when the bad guys raid the stock exchange a trader says there is >>>>> >> > no >>>>> >> > money there for them to steal - the answer is that there must be - >>>>> >> > otherwise the traders wouldn't be there. I think economics is >>>>> >> > largely >>>>> >> > a fetish designed around libidinal and domination 'needs' - but >>>>> >> > even >>>>> >> > organised religion becomes such. My guess is we need a spiritual >>>>> >> > democracy and finance is set against this forcing us into >>>>> >> > compliance >>>>> >> > with its control fraud much as many routinely bend their knees in >>>>> >> > religious observance. Science, admittedly as reliably as a >>>>> >> > double- >>>>> >> > glazing salesman, is suggesting human-biological intelligence is >>>>> >> > already giving way to more machine-substrates that offer quasi- >>>>> >> > immortality and intellect beyond a singularity we can hardly >>>>> >> > imagine. >>>>> >> > In my science fiction dreaming we may discover the alien life on >>>>> >> > Earth >>>>> >> > is actually ours and we have only been used by another, more >>>>> >> > worthy >>>>> >> > consciousness.. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > On 6 Dec, 12:26, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >> >> Many things are best guesses.. are the foundation to many things >>>>> >> >> along >>>>> >> >> what has been observed .. and there is nothing wrong with that .. >>>>> >> >> many >>>>> >> >> ideas have evolved from the instinct for survival .. from that >>>>> >> >> has come >>>>> >> >> selfishness which has lead to the excessive uncaring greed we see >>>>> >> >> today... >>>>> >> >> sacrificing the other ant. >>>>> >> >> Allan >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Matrix ** th3 beginning light >>>>> >> >> On Dec 6, 2012 11:09 AM, "archytas" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > Sounds like something Pontius Pilate might have used. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > I guess that David Deutsch and constructor theory tries to get >>>>> >> >> > back >>>>> >> >> > to >>>>> >> >> > reminding science about its root guesses Allan. I take from >>>>> >> >> > 'Spartacus Ants' sacrificing themselves to destroy slaver ants >>>>> >> >> > that >>>>> >> >> > pre-human biology 'knows' something of survival instinct. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > Descartes had it that until we could get to a point of >>>>> >> >> > re-evaluating >>>>> >> >> > against his radical doubt one had to trust in a beneficent god. >>>>> >> >> > Whilst we can criticize his system, I think anti-religious >>>>> >> >> > science >>>>> >> >> > misses the beat on issues of how we can live until we know >>>>> >> >> > more. The >>>>> >> >> > spiritual thus has its place. There is plenty to avoid in its >>>>> >> >> > history >>>>> >> >> > of control fraud, abuse, sexism and war crimes - but plenty to >>>>> >> >> > learn >>>>> >> >> > in terms of grace and fellowship. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > On 6 Dec, 08:15, Allan H <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >> >> > > it is not for cleaning hands ,, it just gets rid of smell >>>>> >> >> > > that >>>>> >> >> > > you >>>>> >> >> > > can not get rid of no matter how much you wash.. you just >>>>> >> >> > > wash >>>>> >> >> > > after >>>>> >> >> > > youor hands are clean,, then the smell is gone. >>>>> >> >> > > Allan >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 11:27 PM, gabbydott >>>>> >> >> > > <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> > > wrote: >>>>> >> >> > > > Hm, I have never thought of using a steel soap bar for >>>>> >> >> > > > cleaning >>>>> >> >> > > > my >>>>> >> >> > hands. I >>>>> >> >> > > > use it occasionally for my pots and pans. And for the more >>>>> >> >> > > > difficult >>>>> >> >> > dirt on >>>>> >> >> > > > my hands I use a pumice stone or lemon. And more and more >>>>> >> >> > > > often I >>>>> >> >> > > > wear >>>>> >> >> > > > gloves or buy frozen and precut garlic and onion. But >>>>> >> >> > > > thanks for >>>>> >> >> > > > the >>>>> >> >> > tip. >>>>> >> >> > > > I'm sure that one day I'll make use of it. Why not steel >>>>> >> >> > > > instead >>>>> >> >> > > > of >>>>> >> >> > stone, >>>>> >> >> > > > you're right. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > > On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 7:54:42 PM UTC+1, Allan >>>>> >> >> > > > Heretic >>>>> >> >> > > > wrote: >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> Well actually Gabby I have this stainless steel soap bar >>>>> >> >> > > >> used >>>>> >> >> > > >> for >>>>> >> >> > > >> getting rid of ordure off your hands things like onion, >>>>> >> >> > > >> Garlic >>>>> >> >> > > >> ,, >>>>> >> >> > > >> any strong ordure ,, just tried it on the epoxy smell >>>>> >> >> > > >> left >>>>> >> >> > > >> over from >>>>> >> >> > > >> fixing my maxi egg coddler. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> now one of the greatest mysteries of the universe,, how >>>>> >> >> > > >> does it >>>>> >> >> > > >> work? >>>>> >> >> > > >> Allan >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 6:38 PM, gabbydott >>>>> >> >> > > >> <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> > > >> wrote: >>>>> >> >> > > >> > The pointlessness of the points' business. Like Lee, I >>>>> >> >> > > >> > find >>>>> >> >> > > >> > the God >>>>> >> >> > > >> > concept >>>>> >> >> > > >> > much more to the point. :) >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> > I don't follow Lee's sequencing model - first spirit, >>>>> >> >> > > >> > then >>>>> >> >> > > >> > matter - >>>>> >> >> > > >> > though. >>>>> >> >> > > >> > This sounds very man-made to me. ;) >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> > As for the storytelling aspect, yes, the Chronos story >>>>> >> >> > > >> > is much >>>>> >> >> > > >> > more >>>>> >> >> > > >> > vivid >>>>> >> >> > > >> > than the "God created (x) and saw it was good" story. >>>>> >> >> > > >> > That's >>>>> >> >> > > >> > true. >>>>> >> >> > But >>>>> >> >> > > >> > the >>>>> >> >> > > >> > children are less likely to have bad dreams at night. >>>>> >> >> > > >> > Which is >>>>> >> >> > really >>>>> >> >> > > >> > good. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> > Sorry, Allan, I got carried away. What were you talking >>>>> >> >> > > >> > about? >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> > 2012/12/4 Allan H <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> a series of creation is at best a wild guess with no >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> supporting >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> evidence.. >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> Allan >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:42 PM, RP Singh >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> wrote: >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> > You can pinpoint the beginning of this universe but >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> > not >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> > that of >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> > Creation with its series of universes. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Allan H >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> > <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> That is not true the beginning can be pretty much >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> pinpointed >>>>> >> >> > .. as >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> for >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> parallel universes that is just a wild guess with >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> nothing >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> to >>>>> >> >> > support >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> the >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> other than it sounds good. There is more evidence >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> supporting >>>>> >> >> > the >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> spiritual >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> realm than parallel universes >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> Allan >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> Matrix ** th3 beginning light >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> On Dec 4, 2012 2:26 PM, "RP Singh" >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> In my view there is no beginning to creation. There >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> is >>>>> >> >> > beginning >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> and >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> end to universes There are infinite no. of >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> universes in >>>>> >> >> > parallel >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> and >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> continuously many universes are being born and >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> many are >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> dying >>>>> >> >> > , >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> but >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> Creation which includes infinite universes in >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> eternal >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> time , >>>>> >> >> > just >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> like >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> the Spirit, is without beginning and without end. >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> The >>>>> >> >> > difference is >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> that the nature of creation is dualistic and the >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> Spirit >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> is >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> non-dual. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Lee Douglas < >>>>> >> >> > [email protected]> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> wrote: >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > Hello Andrew, >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > Heh I can envisage many things, but alas many of >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > them >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > are not >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > true. >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > I >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > distinguish between two things, matter and >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > spirit. >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > Mattter >>>>> >> >> > is >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > all >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > that >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > is >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > physical, which includes physical 'matter' and >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > also >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > energy. >>>>> >> >> > To >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > me >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > there >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > is >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > no paradox of who created the creator. Before >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > the >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > begining >>>>> >> >> > there >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > was >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > only >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > God, God in spirit, and God created the creation >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > out of >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > the >>>>> >> >> > spirt >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > of >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > God. >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > That is all matter comes from spirit. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > On Friday, 30 November 2012 18:32:43 UTC, andrew >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> > vecsey >>>>> >> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >> Lee, I can see where all matter has to have an >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >> energy >>>>> >> >> > component >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >> to >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >> it >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >> because matter is manifested as atoms which have >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >> motion in >>>>> >> >> > them. >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >> But I >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >> could >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >> also envision pure motion without involving any >>>>> >> >> > atoms...like a >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >> vibration in >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >> the fabric of space, >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >> On Friday, November 30, 2012 5:53:26 PM UTC+1, >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >> Lee >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >> Douglas >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>> Heh except of course that when it comes right >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>> down to >>>>> >> >> > it.energy >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>> is >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>> matter >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>> and matter is energy. >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>> On Friday, 30 November 2012 11:22:14 UTC, >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>> andrew >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>> vecsey >>>>> >> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> The paradoxical dilemma of who created the >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> creator >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> can be >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> circumnavigated by the possibility that the >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> original >>>>> >> >> > creator >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> was >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> not >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> matter, >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> but energy. Just like thinking of anything is >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> much >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> faster >>>>> >> >> > and >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> much >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> easier >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> than building it, it becomes conceivable that >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> energy >>>>> >> >> > patterns >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> could >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> have >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> evolved in a random chance way and finely >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> tuned by >>>>> >> >> > selective >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> processes to >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> reach intelligence similar to how most >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> scientists >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> believe >>>>> >> >> > that >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> patterns of >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> atoms and molecules evolved to form >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> intelligent >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> life. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> Energy patterns could have evolved to a point >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> that >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> they >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> manipulated >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> atoms to desired patterns and forms to code >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> the >>>>> >> >> > information >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> required >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> for >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> life and to allow them to evolve on their own >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> to >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> complex >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> intelligent >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> beings >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> able to wonder at and eventually to solve the >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> riddle >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> of >>>>> >> >> > where >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> they >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> came >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> from, where they are going and why they are >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> alive. >>>>> >> >> > Meaning and >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> purpose could >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> then be given to our fleeting moment of >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> existence. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> On Thursday, November 29, 2012 7:55:05 PM >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> UTC+1, >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> archytas >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> ....... All we have in respect of this is to >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> posit >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> creation, begging the question of what >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> created that >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> in an >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> infinite >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> regress. .....We might get to an intelligent >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> state >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> in >>>>> >> >> > which >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> creation >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> myths are replaced by something more >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> plausible and >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> Truth >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> comes >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> closer. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> On 29 Nov, 01:41, RP Singh <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > Neil , even after re-transposition how long >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > could >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > the >>>>> >> >> > brain >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > live >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > --1000 years , 10000years or maybe as long >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > as the >>>>> >> >> > universe >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > ,but >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > ultimately it will die or be destroyed at >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > the end >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > - >>>>> >> >> > time of >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > the >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > universe. What survives is the Truth behind >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > life >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > and >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > nothing >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > else. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:33 AM, archytas >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > <[email protected]> >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > What survives is the gene - subject to >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > mutations >>>>> >> >> > etc. We >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > are >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > already >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > 'Borg' in the sense of mass assimilation. >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > One's mind >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > could >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > be >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > transposed to another substrate (nearish >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > future) - >>>>> >> >> > our >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > bodies >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > are >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > currently replaced every 5 years or so- >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > and the >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > new >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > substrate >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > could >>>>> >> >> > > >> >> >>> >>>>> > > have nanobots that would allow minds to >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> ... >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> read more ยป >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > -- >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -- >>>>> >> ( >>>>> >> ) >>>>> >> |_D Allan >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I am a Natural Airgunner - >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ( >>>>> ) >>>>> |_D Allan >>>>> >>>>> Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am a Natural Airgunner - >>>>> >>>>> Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> >> >> -- ( ) |_D Allan Life is for moral, ethical and truthful living. I am a Natural Airgunner - Full of Hot Air & Ready To Expel It Quickly. --
