I don't think it should be the contributors who should choose directly to who the money is "attributed". That being exactly the role of the foundation, in my opinion.
But maybe : - the foundation could take into account the time given by each dev - the devs could have their own votes in regards to the importance of each others work (but not their own) - contributors could "vote" for the efforts they appreciate most (the choicelist is going to be hard to produce)... These opinions/facts *could* be taken into account by the foundation... But it might already be the case ? PS : >From now I'll stop buying the CD and convert this money into a little bigger donation :) Many thanks to Theo, and all the devs for their excellent work. -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] De la part de Michel Behr Envoyé : mardi 1 décembre 2015 21:41 À : Theo de Raadt <dera...@cvs.openbsd.org> Cc : Kevin Chadwick <m8il1i...@gmail.com>; OpenBSD <firstname.lastname@example.org>; fundrais...@openbsdfoundation.org Objet : Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set? Just one more thing: for non-developers, if you think there's any sense in this idea I just described, please, some "seconding" and/or additions would be welcomed. Also some e-mails directed to fundrais...@openbsdfoundation.org would be great in this regard too. (Again: OpenBSD developers should *NOT* need to get involved in this discussion, this is between non-developers and the OpenBSD foundation). On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Michel Behr <michelb...@gmail.com> wrote: > As I understand, one of the reasons for the Foundation to avoid > targeted contributions is to preserve the independence of the project > - in the current model they are accountable for allocating the > resources as they see fit. So IMHO there is value in that model for > that regard. On the other hand, the fact that none of the donations is > directed specifically to compensate for the hard work of the > developers (and more specifically > Theo's) gives the foundation the prerogative to, for example, have at > the donation page one donation account separate, specific for > developers, with a clear message that those resources would go > directly to the developers (or to one developer...), in contrast with > the "standard" donation channel, which funds only events, > infrastructure, etc. It would a reasonable exception. I think if this > done with the same transparency things have being managed so far, there's no problem. > > And by the way, this suggestion is mine, not Theo's (and I'm far from > being a developer!), so I'm cc'ing the foundations' e-mail address - I > see this as matter of interest to the foundation because it touches > directly their purpose of providing the administrative support for the > project to keep it moving forward - e.g. providing a channel through > the donations page for developers to receive direct contributions > would permit them the flexibility to dedicate even more time to the > project. It would also be one more "communication channel" for > recognition to the developers high-quality code that's been produced over the years. > > Anyway, just my $0.02... (I think this is a matter that's between the > non-developers community and the OpenBSD Foundation, Theo and the > other OpenBSD developers should not need to get involved on this discussion). > > Kind regards, > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Theo de Raadt > <dera...@cvs.openbsd.org> > wrote: > >> > > > Now to be clear Theo, are donation via the paypal on the >> > > > donations >> page >> > > > are directly to you and you can do as you see fit, and/or only >> checks >> > > > would be best? >> > > >> > > Correct, as I see fit. I try to use it for the Project for >> > > things the Foundation doesn't fund. I declared it that way on >> > > the web site. I have not used it much for my own needs. >> > >> > I'd guess this has been thought of and just throwing in lame ideas >> > on the off chance it's of any use and maybe it's just extra site >> > coding work and there are legal complications, if not then are the >> > people in charge of the foundation website/operation privvy to this >> > list? Is Bob part of that? >> > >> > .... >> > I wonder if it would gain any traction if there was a separate >> > donation box and cheque address with a statement along the lines of >> > The OpenBSD project leader works full time and receives no support >> > from donations to the foundation. If you would like to also support >> > The project leader directly then you can do so here or by sending a cheque to. >> > >> > _______________Made up example, Don't send here________________ >> > >> > Theo De Raadt >> > The OpenBSD project leader >> > 8101 160 Street >> > Edmonton, Alberta, Canada >> > T5R 2G9 >> > _______________________________________________________________ >> > >> > Alternatively but perhaps more complex behind the scenes?.. a >> > percentage box so everytime someone makes a donation they can >> > choose a percentage of their donation to the foundation from 0%-?% >> > that goes to support the project leader. >> > >> > That way I guess the project leader could choose to waive it if the >> > foundation is ever in trouble financially should they wish so long >> > as the site foundation site discloses that possibility for legal >> > reasons I guess? >> >> We've heard numerous times that the OpenBSD Foundation avoids >> targetted contributions. I don't think what you suggest is the right >> method of solving this (essentially, splitting a pie).