I don't think it should be the contributors who should choose directly to who
the money is "attributed".
That being exactly the role of the foundation, in my opinion.

But maybe :
- the foundation could take into account the time given by each dev
- the devs could have their own votes in regards to the importance of each
others work (but not their own)
- contributors could "vote" for the efforts they appreciate most (the
choicelist is going to be hard to produce)...

These opinions/facts *could* be taken into account by the foundation...
But it might already be the case ?

PS :
>From now I'll stop buying the CD and convert this money into a little bigger
donation :)
Many thanks to Theo, and all the devs for their excellent work.

-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] De la part de
Michel Behr
Envoyé : mardi 1 décembre 2015 21:41
À : Theo de Raadt <dera...@cvs.openbsd.org>
Cc : Kevin Chadwick <m8il1i...@gmail.com>; OpenBSD <misc@openbsd.org>;
Objet : Re: A branded USB stick as an alternative to the CD set?

Just one more thing: for non-developers, if you think there's any sense in
this idea I just described, please, some "seconding" and/or additions would be
welcomed. Also some e-mails directed to fundrais...@openbsdfoundation.org
would be great in this regard too. (Again: OpenBSD developers should *NOT*
need to get involved in this discussion, this is between non-developers and
the OpenBSD foundation).

On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Michel Behr <michelb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As I understand, one of the reasons for the Foundation to avoid
> targeted contributions is to preserve the independence of the project
> - in the current model they are accountable for allocating the
> resources as they see fit. So IMHO there is value in that model for
> that regard. On the other hand, the fact that none of the donations is
> directed specifically to compensate for the hard work of the
> developers (and more specifically
> Theo's) gives the foundation the prerogative to, for example, have at
> the donation page one donation account separate, specific for
> developers, with a clear message that those resources would go
> directly to the developers (or to one developer...), in contrast with
> the "standard" donation channel, which funds only events,
> infrastructure, etc. It would a reasonable exception. I think if this
> done with the same transparency things have being managed so far, there's no
> And by the way, this suggestion is mine, not Theo's (and I'm far from
> being a developer!), so I'm cc'ing the foundations' e-mail address - I
> see this as matter of interest to the foundation because it touches
> directly their purpose of providing the administrative support for the
> project to keep it moving forward - e.g. providing a channel through
> the donations page for developers to receive direct contributions
> would permit them the flexibility to dedicate even more time to the
> project. It would also be one more "communication channel" for
> recognition to the developers high-quality code that's been produced over
the years.
> Anyway, just my $0.02... (I think this is a matter that's between the
> non-developers community and the OpenBSD Foundation, Theo and the
> other OpenBSD developers should not need to get involved on this
> Kind regards,
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Theo de Raadt
> <dera...@cvs.openbsd.org>
> wrote:
>> > > > Now to be clear Theo, are donation via the paypal on the
>> > > > donations
>> page
>> > > > are directly to you and you can do as you see fit, and/or only
>> checks
>> > > > would be best?
>> > >
>> > > Correct, as I see fit.  I try to use it for the Project for
>> > > things the Foundation doesn't fund.  I declared it that way on
>> > > the web site.  I have not used it much for my own needs.
>> >
>> > I'd guess this has been thought of and just throwing in lame ideas
>> > on the off chance it's of any use and maybe it's just extra site
>> > coding work and there are legal complications, if not then are the
>> > people in charge of the foundation website/operation privvy to this
>> > list? Is Bob part of that?
>> >
>> > ....
>> > I wonder if it would gain any traction if there was a separate
>> > donation box and cheque address with a statement along the lines of
>> > The OpenBSD project leader works full time and receives no support
>> > from donations to the foundation. If you would like to also support
>> > The project leader directly then you can do so here or by sending a
cheque to.
>> >
>> > _______________Made up example, Don't send here________________
>> >
>> > Theo De Raadt
>> > The OpenBSD project leader
>> > 8101 160 Street
>> > Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
>> > T5R 2G9
>> > _______________________________________________________________
>> >
>> > Alternatively but perhaps more complex behind the scenes?.. a
>> > percentage box so everytime someone makes a donation they can
>> > choose a percentage of their donation to the foundation from 0%-?%
>> > that goes to support the project leader.
>> >
>> > That way I guess the project leader could choose to waive it if the
>> > foundation is ever in trouble financially should they wish so long
>> > as the site foundation site discloses that possibility for legal
>> > reasons I guess?
>> We've heard numerous times that the OpenBSD Foundation avoids
>> targetted contributions.  I don't think what you suggest is the right
>> method of solving this (essentially, splitting a pie).

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