Changing the cams out will be a waste of time. What did you do to verify the spark plug wire order? Can you take a video of how the car is running? On Feb 29, 2016 7:39 PM, "damac2004" <damac2...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> i put the techtronics chip back in and put the older throttle body back in > with no changes in how the car is acting. i also checked grounds and ran > some extras to the bundle on head, etc. just in case. > > my issues make for a useless car, no way it could be driven. so my > problems seem way beyond the little tuning people do to get their cars > running right. this car ran and drove when i got it with very old and worn > injector seals and numerous vacuum lines with holes in it. it ran its best > when hot and on the throttle never gave out on me or died. although it had > goofy issues with starting consistently and idling a little > high/rough/inconsistent at times. > > and i see people mention 02 sensors and cts making for a rough running car > possibly but again this is way worse than that. > > i'm stuck so tomorrow i am going to put the old cams, etc. back on and > cross my fingers. > > On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 8:41:59 PM UTC-8, hollandphillips wrote: >> >> Since the Mk 2 cars were all pre OBD, they had only one O2 sensor which >> was mounted before the cat. So the ECU never knew if the cat even existed >> or was functioning properly. Now that I think about it, if the O2 sensor >> has no output, or was not connected, the ECU will go into "safe mode", >> which is full rich. Hence your poor fuel mileage. I also recalled that the >> O2 sensor on the Motronic cars is a three wire type, which means it has a >> heater, so its output will become valid more quickly in order to reduce >> emissions. All this is bringing back memories of all the 16V trivia I >> acquired over the years. 😐 >> >> ~Holland >> On Feb 27, 2016 20:00, "damac2004" <dama...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> i could test compression but it it did drive fine before i tore it all >>> apart, after this incident. >>> >>> this car had no cat so 02 sensor was laying underneath airbox this whole >>> time :). >>> >>> i thought the car stunk and i got bad mileage but this car was fun to >>> drive. i was beating on itand it pulled when i stomped on it all the time >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MK2-16v" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to mk2-16v+u...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to mk2...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mk2-16v. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mk2-16v/c9b6bb5d-ae7b-4c28-8f59-aa4b98cee00c%40googlegroups.com >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MK2-16v" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to mk2-16v+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to mk2-16v@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mk2-16v. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mk2-16v/9d2a77d7-7104-4d51-81cf-8cf518a97e98%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mk2-16v/9d2a77d7-7104-4d51-81cf-8cf518a97e98%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MK2-16v" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mk2-16v+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mk2-16v@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/mk2-16v. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/mk2-16v/CA%2BV5SC-cRYXR1%2B0bT9qW8uuH5zzHzUO3MhgZ9%3DJD2J5q-6d5dw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.