Changing the cams out will be a waste of time. What did you do to verify
the spark plug wire order? Can you take a video of how the car is running?
On Feb 29, 2016 7:39 PM, "damac2004" <damac2...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> i put the techtronics chip back in and put the older throttle body back in
> with no changes in how the car is acting.  i also checked grounds and ran
> some extras to the bundle on head, etc. just in case.
>
> my issues make for a useless car, no way it could be driven.  so my
> problems seem way beyond the little tuning people do to get their cars
> running right.  this car ran and drove when i got it with very old and worn
> injector seals and numerous vacuum lines with holes in it. it ran its best
> when hot and on the throttle never gave out on me or died. although it had
> goofy issues with starting consistently and idling a little
> high/rough/inconsistent at times.
>
> and i see people mention 02 sensors and cts making for a rough running car
> possibly but again this is way worse than that.
>
> i'm stuck so tomorrow i am going to put the old cams, etc. back on and
> cross my fingers.
>
> On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 8:41:59 PM UTC-8, hollandphillips wrote:
>>
>> Since the Mk 2 cars were all pre OBD, they had only one O2 sensor which
>> was mounted before the cat. So the ECU never knew if the cat even existed
>> or was functioning properly. Now that I think about it, if the O2 sensor
>> has no output, or was not connected, the ECU will go into "safe mode",
>> which is full rich. Hence your poor fuel mileage. I also recalled that the
>> O2 sensor on the Motronic cars is a three wire type, which means it has a
>> heater, so its output will become valid more quickly in order to reduce
>> emissions. All this is bringing back memories of all the 16V trivia I
>> acquired over the years. 😐
>>
>> ~Holland
>> On Feb 27, 2016 20:00, "damac2004" <dama...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> i could test compression but it it did drive fine before i tore it all
>>> apart, after this incident.
>>>
>>> this car had no cat so 02 sensor was laying underneath airbox this whole
>>> time :).
>>>
>>> i thought the car stunk and i got bad mileage but this car was fun to
>>> drive. i was beating on itand it pulled when i stomped on it all the time
>>>
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