Extended auctions make no sense.  Internet auctions are not  like live 
auctions.  They go on for a week and during that time you have  plenty of time 
to make up your mind how much you are going to bid.  Live  auctions are 
fairly rare and do not take place very often.  The idea of  being a slave to 
your 
computer chair to see if you have to bid more is  idiotic.  Bid your 
highest price and stand by it.  There can only be  one winner no matter how 
long 
an auction runs.  Extended auctions only  serve to drive up prices for the 
seller.  Finally, live auctions feature  high end posters and not a zillion 
posters at $5 or less.
 
The irony of this is that I rarely bid on Bruce's auctions.  I  scan all 
posters for sale every day and I place a snipe bid on ebay  immediately.  I do 
not have the time to waste sitting at my computer to see  if someone is 
going to outbid me in the last few minutes and extend the  auction.  I happen 
to bid very high when I want a poster but I don't want  to be run up by 
someone placing a bid every few minutes near the end.  I  would just as soon 
pass.
 
On the other hand when there is a live auction such as at Heritage  and 
Everett I will take part because I can bid via telephone.  These are  higher 
end posters and I have no problem with such auctions a few times a  year.  To 
do this weekly is a very bad idea.
 
CJL
 
 
In a message dated 9/28/2009 3:44:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Grey,

Well, since your message  ended up going public, I have two comments:

1) Thanks for the tip about  Gavelsnip.com, I didn't know about that one.

2) Since it is possible to  snipe Heritage auctions in the last 
micro-second, wouldn't it be a good idea  for Heritage to implement on its 
internet-only auctions the same kind of  "extended bidding time" that 
emovieposter.com 
uses -- where if a bid comes in  during the last couple of minutes the end 
time of the auction is automatically  extended by 5 minutes so that other 
bidders have a chance to respond?  

-- JR

Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote:  
 
Jeff, 
I  am writing you privately concerning this as this does concern me and I  
believe it  is because you seem to be unaware that there is a very good  
snipe program that works on our site. Many, many use the  program. 
It  is called Gavelsnip.com and is free to use. Also works on  eBay! 
I  know the buyer of the lot you are concerned about and emailed him asking 
him  to perhaps privately email you and tell you how his bid was placed. It 
may  happen and he may not. He is a gentleman that lives in California and 
buys  frequently with us. 
All  the best, 
Grey  Smith 
 
 
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(mailto:[email protected]) ]  On Behalf Of Jeff Herdan
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009  12:34 PM
To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) 
Subject:  [MOPO] An odd incident on this past Sunday Heritage  Auction

I had a very interesting experience in yesterday’s  Heritage Sunday 
auction. 
I bid on lot #54132 (Buck Jones ‘Desert Vengeance’ Lobby  Title Card).  I 
placed a bid of $260 + 19 ½ % buyer’s premium (total of  $310.70). .I made 
the bid with less than 1 minute to go.  The previous  high bid was $80 
(+premium) and when my bid was listed as the high bid, my  bid was shown as 
$150 
(plus premium)…again with less than 1 minute to  go. 
I watched the seconds tick down and when there was  literally 1 second to 
go, I was still the high bidder at $150.   However, when the auction ended, 
it suddenly showed a high bid of $280 (plus  premium).  Somehow I was outbid. 
I wonder how this happened….was it a fluke that someone  with hands as 
quick as Eli Manning just made the higher bid with 1 second on  the clock or 
maybe it was an ‘internal bidder’ who recognized that I was  about to make a 
good purchase.   
Frankly with all the press that is going on regarding  shill bidding in 
Auction houses (with Heritage being named as one who uses  internal bidders and 
fictitious bidders, I seriously wonder if this was just  such a case….I 
cannot be sure, but it certainly leaves one to pause to  think. 
I know that I will not participate in future Heritage  auctions.  Any 
thoughts?  



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