I just got back from a cruise and had 300 emails to  read
 
 
In a message dated 10/3/2009 1:58:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Well, it's a week late but thank you for backing up my  position Claude.
 
Sean

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  _Claude  Litton_ (mailto:[email protected])  
To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])   
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 1:28  PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] An odd incident on  this past Sunday Heritage Auction


Extended auctions make no sense.  Internet auctions are  not like live 
auctions.  They go on for a week and during that time you  have plenty of time 
to make up your mind how much you are going to  bid.  Live auctions are 
fairly rare and do not take place very  often.  The idea of being a slave to 
your 
computer chair to see if you  have to bid more is idiotic.  Bid your 
highest price and stand by  it.  There can only be one winner no matter how 
long 
an auction  runs.  Extended auctions only serve to drive up prices for the  
seller.  Finally, live auctions feature high end posters and not a  zillion 
posters at $5 or less.
 
The irony of this is that I rarely bid on Bruce's  auctions.  I scan all 
posters for sale every day and I place a snipe  bid on ebay immediately.  I do 
not have the time to waste sitting at my  computer to see if someone is 
going to outbid me in the last few minutes and  extend the auction.  I happen 
to bid very high when I want a poster but  I don't want to be run up by 
someone placing a bid every few minutes near  the end.  I would just as soon 
pass.
 
On the other hand when there is a live auction such as at  Heritage and 
Everett I will take part because I can bid via telephone.   These are higher 
end posters and I have no problem with such auctions a few  times a year.  To 
do this weekly is a very bad idea.
 
CJL
 
 
In a message dated 9/28/2009 3:44:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Grey,

Well,  since your message ended up going public, I have two comments:

1)  Thanks for the tip about Gavelsnip.com, I didn't know about that  one.

2) Since it is possible to snipe Heritage auctions in the last  
micro-second, wouldn't it be a good idea for Heritage to implement on its  
internet-only auctions the same kind of "extended bidding time" that  
emovieposter.com 
uses -- where if a bid comes in during the last couple of  minutes the end 
time of the auction is automatically extended by 5 minutes  so that other 
bidders have a chance to respond? 

--  JR

Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote:  
 
Jeff, 
I  am writing you privately concerning this as this does concern me and I  
believe it  is because you seem to be unaware that there is a very  good 
snipe program that works on our site. Many, many use the  program. 
It  is called Gavelsnip.com and is free to use. Also works on  eBay! 
I  know the buyer of the lot you are concerned about and emailed him asking 
 him to perhaps privately email you and tell you how his bid was placed.  
It may happen and he may not. He is a gentleman that lives in California  and 
buys frequently with us. 
All  the best, 
Grey  Smith 
 
 
From: MoPo List  [_mailto:[email protected]_ 
(mailto:[email protected]) ]  On Behalf Of Jeff Herdan
Sent: Monday, September 28,  2009 12:34 PM
To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) 
Subject:  [MOPO] An odd incident on this past Sunday Heritage  Auction

I had a very interesting experience in yesterday’s  Heritage Sunday 
auction. 
I bid on lot #54132 (Buck Jones ‘Desert Vengeance’  Lobby Title Card).  I 
placed a bid of $260 + 19 ½ % buyer’s premium  (total of $310.70). .I made 
the bid with less than 1 minute to go.   The previous high bid was $80 
(+premium) and when my bid was listed as  the high bid, my bid was shown as 
$150 
(plus premium)…again with less  than 1 minute to go. 
I watched the seconds tick down and when there was  literally 1 second to 
go, I was still the high bidder at $150.   However, when the auction ended, 
it suddenly showed a high bid of $280  (plus premium).  Somehow I was outbid. 
I wonder how this happened….was it a fluke that  someone with hands as 
quick as Eli Manning just made the higher bid with  1 second on the clock or 
maybe it was an ‘internal bidder’ who  recognized that I was about to make a 
good purchase.    
Frankly with all the press that is going on regarding  shill bidding in 
Auction houses (with Heritage being named as one who  uses internal bidders and 
fictitious bidders, I seriously wonder if this  was just such a case….I 
cannot be sure, but it certainly leaves one to  pause to think. 
I know that I will not participate in future Heritage  auctions.  Any 
thoughts?  



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