Hi SA

Something Ian and I have come across,
look up Alan Rayner on google if you are interested.

Ta
David

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heather Perella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] subject / object logic


> What does inclusionality mean?
>
> SA
>
>
>     [DM]
>> Funny how this sounds like inclusionality.
>>
>> DM
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Heather Perella"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 4:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MD] subject / object logic
>>
>>
>> >> [SA previously]
>> >>     If I may...
>> >>     You can have a concept about anything and it
>> is
>> >> not separate based on what is called 'a part of
>> >> you', 'one with you', 'oneness',
>> 'one-with-nature',
>> > or
>> >> ecosystem experience, namely the woods, etc...
>> It
>> >> is these non-ego experiences that DM is referring
>> > to.
>> >> The distinct experiences are static, but these
>> are
>> >> dynamic anyways.  Distinct doesn't refer to
>> >> separate.
>> >> How does you pointing out "...unconceptualized
>> >> experience is sensual distinction." change or
>> speak
>> >> differently than what I've just said?
>> >
>> >> [Ron]
>> >> Hello SA,
>> >> when you say
>> >> "The distinct experiences are static, but these
>> are
>> >> dynamic anyways "
>> >> what do you mean?
>> >> thanks
>> >
>> >
>> >     It is what I call:  dq is sq, and sq is dq.
>> > Here's a quote from the SODV paper as follows:
>> >
>> >          "In this diagram you will notice that
>> > Dynamic Quality is not shown in any block. It is
>> in
>> > the background. This seems the best way to
>> represent
>> > it. It is not only outside the blocks,
>> >
>> > Page 14
>> >
>> > it pervades them but it goes on where the blocks
>> leave
>> > off."
>> >
>> >     - SODV; Pirsig
>> >
>> >     This is how intellectual values last as long
>> as
>> > it is valued.  Social values as long as they are
>> > valued.  Organic... valued.  Inorganic... valued.
>> > Change is the motto here.  This part of the
>> article
>> > goes on to say as follows:
>> >
>> >      "The blocks are organized in the order of
>> > evolution, with each higher block more recent and
>> more
>> > Dynamic than the lower ones."
>> >
>> >     - SODV; Pirsig
>> >
>> >
>> > Does this help?
>> >
>> > thanks.
>> >
>> >
>> > woods,
>> > SA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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