[Platt] Why cite the reference unless the implication was to support your view that "self" is imaginary, the topic of discussion?
[Arlo] Because I found it interesting, as I said when I offered the link. What this one article, and what I think all of us who adhere to the "self" is "illusory" offers is a look into the difference between this illusion as pragmatic, and this illusion as "non-existent". No one, lest of all me, would propose the "self" does not exist, rather I propose the "self" is an illusion of experience, but a "real illusion" (to use an oxymoron) that structures activity. [Platt] Whether I "smugly sit back and feel good" is irrelevant to the discussion. Your character attack simply reflects the tactics of moveon.org. So it comes as no surprise. [Arlo] I'd say "character attack" is much a right-wing strategy as a left-wing one in the modern political arena, but I do recognize that both Hannity and O'Reilly have really stepped up their use of the phrase "tactics of moveon.org" in recent weeks (anyone here with the mindset to do it can listen to hear how often these pundits use the phrase), so hearing you parrot this here is no big surprise. My point was that rather than take a topic for conversation, you dismissed the entirety of the article by finding one point of contention and then using it to ""prove" that anatta is a "low quality" idea. In fact, all I did was point out something I found superficially interesting, admitting that I had no real substantive knowledge on the idea, but seeing how it relates to the topic at hand, I though the information would enrich some. [Platt] I've already commented on this passage where the self is acknowledged as real. [Arlo] The "self"is "real" only in terms of its pragmatic application to the world of activity.That is the theme echoed throughout ZMM and LILA, a theme derived from the Buddhist core to the philosophy. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
