Hi SA Nice idea with the expt. And thanks for the confirmation about political values.
Regards David M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Perella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [MD] Values > [DM] >> I think the powerful in society spends alot of time >> and effort >> trying to keep people as children: unaware of >> the possibilities that really exist, and the dangers >> and benefits >> these possibilities contain. The powerful do this >> for many >> reasons. Fear of the masses, fear of losing their >> power, >> fear of the ignorance and irrationality of the >> masses (whether >> justified or not), belief in their own wisdom and >> goodness >> and entitlement to power (whether justified or not), >> cynical >> manipulation, lack of faith in the idea of >> democracy, >> elitist assumptions (whether justified or not), etc. > > At work I intentionally did something, as a > social experiment, to see how it could work out. I > put the whole unit of residents on interaction > restriction. This isn't a new consequence at the > facility. I did so, due to the females on the unit > were targeting each other. Some wanted to kill other > residents. Some threatened to punch others, etc... > The staff were having a rough time as well handling > these events. So, what I did that was different, is I > continued the interaction restriction for over seven > days. They couldn't verbally and nonverbally interact > with each other. It was going on for a long time. We > were into the ninth day, and I planned out the night > before that I would let it continue until the > residents were able to carry this consequence out > very, very well or until staff came up to me and said > they thought it should be over. Either way, it would > help refocus the unit. Many things happened that > turned out for the best. First, staff started talking > to each other about how this should end. Then on the > ninth day a staff member came up to me, and said how > she thought the interaction restriction needs to end. > She said, "What good is it doing going on this long > anyways? We are only holding the residents back." I > said to her, "Your 100% right. I'm with you on this. > I was waiting for either the residents to do the > consequence very well or one of the staff to come up > to me and say they wanted it stopped." > You see I came up with the consequence, and I > further told the staff that I didn't want staff that > just follow orders. I want staff that if they really > believe something is not going on correctly or it > isn't helping out the unit, then I want staff to come > up to me and speak their mind. I don't want robots. > Secondly what this did, is it took the heat off the > staff and onto me. I came up with the consequence, > and now the residents took their negativity off the > staff and each other and refocused it on me. Also, as > soon as I talked with this staff that wanted it to > stop, I immediately went out and let the residents > know that staff, and I named some names, convinced me > that the interaction restriction should me lifted and > ended. I said, I think these staff are right, and it > is no longer. Now these staff, in the eyes of the > residents were staff trying to help them out. More > positive interactions have been going on for some days > now, so far. > I also did tell that staff that came up to me and > wanted the consequence to end, that I didn't want > staff that just follow authority no matter what is > going on. Authority is no something to follow > blindly. > > [DM] >> The challenge of freedom and democratic autonomy is >> great, >> and progress seems to have stalled. Our political >> leadership >> is very poor. Is there not more to life than seeking >> continuous >> economic growth? Rather do we not need to seek a >> higher >> quality way to live together socially? > > I don't watch all the political debates, but the > Republican debate was on the other day and I wanted to > see what they were discussing. I'm not pointing out > the political party so much, at least I don't think > so, I'd imagine the same is being debated with the > Democratic party, too. If not, somebody let me know. > Anyways, for over 30 minutes since I started watching > the debate, all's they talked about was the economy > and how they were going to make it better. For over > 30 minutes... why don't we just get a CEO in charge of > this country. It's all about business anyways. > I agree, we do need to seek a higher quality ways > to live together socially. This is why I think > intellectual issues stem into social issues > eventually. So, how and what we intellectualize is > some of the weather that rains and sunshines upon > society. > > some good points, thanks. > > SA > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. > Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. > http://sims.yahoo.com/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
