[Bo]
> What I'm saying (repeating) is that the MOQ is
> revolution. Pirsig
> is the the first ever to point to a S/O metaphysics
> , how it
> emerged with the Greeks and possibly will be
> replaced by the
> DQ/SQ metaphysics.
Then replace it.
[Bo]
> If you claim that Comte's positivism
> matches the static level evolution? And other see
> anti-SOMism and budding MOQs all over the place, it
has become a
> competition of NOT mentioning Pirsig. What has this
> site come to?.
I don't know what your saying here.
[Bo]
> MOQ's social value is about individuals joining in a
> common
> cause to escape biology's jungle law and has nothing
> to do with
> agricultural evolution. One must understand its
> enormous scope,
> that it does not concern itself with petty things
> like life and death,
> but much loftier issues ;-)
I don't know why your talking about agricultural
evolution and stuff, but this last sentence? The moq
has static levels. They are inorganic, organic,
social, and intellectual. These static quality levels
are value and moral. Life and death petty? WOW! Are
you trying to say suicide is good? We are not to
concern ourselves with life?
> Spirtiual:
> > Concepts are language? Ok, how you got from the
> above quote to this
> > conclusion of yours, I'm lost.
[Bo]
> Pirsig said that intellect used concepts in its
> social role. This I find
> awkward, concepts is=language and language is a
> social pattern,
> consquently what helped find food was/is
> INTELLIGENCE not
> intellect.
I still don't know where your getting these
conclusions. If it's what you think, then I'll accept
that with high value. Not saying I agree.
[Bo]
> When intellect arrived on the scene it regarded all
> existence as
> own value (all static levels do that) and began to
> apply its S/O
> matrix on to everything, among other things "...
> understanding
> the ancient myths as intellectual patterns". The MOQ
> however ...
> UNDERSTANDS INTELLECT AS A VALUE PATTERN!
I understand that S/O helped philosophy get to
this point, but the moq changed the narrow S/O
intellectual view into an experience that is not
divided.
[Bo]
> I won't convince you, I know, it's more a
> self-education.
ok
blue sky,
SA
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