Hi David,

Hmmm ... bit of a context problem here. Clearly yes.

Let's back up a mo.
I was saying there is very little to distinguish the social and
intellectual levels - very little that's hard and fast defintionally
... other than perhaps - the dominance of concvention and authority at
the social end.

Almost all the evolutionary processes and mechanisms in the
socio-politico-intellectual continuum are the same, and yes these
include cooperation as well as competition amongst memes (information
replicators) just like the living (biological) level depends on those
same bag of mechanisms amongst the genes (information replicators).

So back to the specific satement ...
Authority and convention can indeed incorporate "cooperation" - but
it's a matter of history - the convention may include cooperation, but
is accepted as right by conventional authority, simply forgetting
whether the convention arose from either a habit or a rationale of
cooperation, and is now used socially without questioning the
rationalization.

In the same way as authority / convention / habit dominate at the
social end, questioning dominates at the intellectual end. But even
questioning cannot always link a chain of reasoning to "first cause"
so there is always a social element to intellect, a point of
instinctual or delegated trust & habit that needn't be questioned (in
the current pragmatic context). To do so is called analysis paralysis.

Ooops ... dunno where that came from.
Ian



On 11/9/07, David M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > IG - Agree ... no confusion there .... society is about "authority"
> > and "convention"
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