Ian thanks for clarification.
DM ----- Original Message ----- From: "ian glendinning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [MD] subject/object: pragmatism CORRECTION > Hi David, > > Hmmm ... bit of a context problem here. Clearly yes. > > Let's back up a mo. > I was saying there is very little to distinguish the social and > intellectual levels - very little that's hard and fast defintionally > ... other than perhaps - the dominance of concvention and authority at > the social end. > > Almost all the evolutionary processes and mechanisms in the > socio-politico-intellectual continuum are the same, and yes these > include cooperation as well as competition amongst memes (information > replicators) just like the living (biological) level depends on those > same bag of mechanisms amongst the genes (information replicators). > > So back to the specific satement ... > Authority and convention can indeed incorporate "cooperation" - but > it's a matter of history - the convention may include cooperation, but > is accepted as right by conventional authority, simply forgetting > whether the convention arose from either a habit or a rationale of > cooperation, and is now used socially without questioning the > rationalization. > > In the same way as authority / convention / habit dominate at the > social end, questioning dominates at the intellectual end. But even > questioning cannot always link a chain of reasoning to "first cause" > so there is always a social element to intellect, a point of > instinctual or delegated trust & habit that needn't be questioned (in > the current pragmatic context). To do so is called analysis paralysis. > > Ooops ... dunno where that came from. > Ian > > > > On 11/9/07, David M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > IG - Agree ... no confusion there .... society is about "authority" >> > and "convention" >> > >> >> DM: Any place for cooperation? >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
