[Ron then]
Dogs, Primates, the meercats in "meercat manor" all exhibit
communication
And reasonably complex social structure. Which implies a certain degree
Of symbol manipulation and subjective agreement. We humans exhibit the
Most complex forms but I'd hesitate to say we are the only species
That displays intellect. However crude.
[Krimel then]
Ants "communicate" with chemical signals. Bees do the "waggle dance" and
putty nose monkeys have different alarm cries for leopards than eagles.
They
even combine the two cries syntactically to signal time to move to a new
territory to forage. I would be as reluctant to call this "intellect" as
I
would be to say that the Greeks invented "intellect"
{Ron now}
Exactly my point about establishing a general concept about intellect.
[ron then]
When intellect has yet to be defined sufficiently yes, it does create a
Lot Of confusion about what is meant by pre-intellect. The important
part I
Feel Needs clarification is which way are we focusing to achieve a
quality
awareness? Some impressions imply that it is to be found in
pre-intellect And replacing SOM with MOQ. We have demonstrated that SOM
is
cultural As well as intellectual and is a huge contributing factor in
how we
Perceive reality.
[Krimel now]
I don't think we need to focus on intellect to find Quality awareness.
This
Quality awareness is rooted in biology and modified through experience
but
it does not require intellect to be expressed or for that matter to be
suppressed. In other words Quality awareness is not something that needs
to
be achieved. It just is.
{Ron now}
That's it exactly Krimel, this is what I'm trying to convey by
establishing
SOM as cultural as it stands today. We need not suppress it, shed it,
Or replace it. It can however be transformed.
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