Ian said:
For me this just further illustrates that there is very little to distinguish 
social and intellectual level patterns.

dmb says:
Really? Then where would you locate the intellectual quality of the statement, 
"I love my country" and where would you locate the social level value of the 
equation E=mc2? Is a book-burning an intellectual event because books are 
involved? When the Bush administration supresses scientific data for political 
and financial reasons, is that just a clash of equal philosophies? Are we 
really powerless to discern the difference or see patterns? C'mon you guys, the 
difference between ant colonies and human societies is as stark as the 
difference between pheromones and moral laws. I really don't understand why its 
so hard to distinquish these things. Seems to me that fascism and 
fundamentalism are going to continue to threaten democracy and so knowing the 
difference is going to continue to be important. And if these are levels of 
morality then confusion about which is which is going to lead to immoral 
choices, don't you think?



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