Hi Krimel I think this is key, patterns have levels like Russian dolls, so that most complex patterns have an aspect on more than one level and have to be built up from the lowest level, although some don't reach up that high, so atoms don't use English, but English can be expressed in many ways: vibrating atoms, atoms marked on paper, atoms in human form, etc. But, I'd suggest, we can see where in the Russian doll grid a certain patterns manifest, there are levels to be understood, non-reductively to make sense of how the patterns inter-relate.
DM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krimel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [MD] subject/object: pragmatism > David M. > > Sure does. Our understanding is always enhanced by the quality and > quantity > of the nets we cast. > > Krimel > > -----Original Message----- > From: David M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 2:23 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [MD] subject/object: pragmatism > > Krimel > > Adds alot to our understanding to see the reproductive-biological > aspect of family life, the social capital and productive aspects, > the political, and sexual-political (feminism etc) intellectual aspects, > does it not? > > David M > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Krimel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 2:57 PM > Subject: Re: [MD] subject/object: pragmatism > > >> [Ron] >> Question: >> Is a human still a human if it is born and raised >> Outside of other human contact? >> >> [Krimel] >> In a word, no. The evidence on this is a bit shaky but research on feral >> children suggests that after about 10 years of age, children who have >> not >> had the benefit of human contact can not learn language, can not be >> house >> broken and do not socialize. In some instances feral children have had >> difficulty even learning to walk erect. >> >> Ron: >> Kinda puts things in perspective, Family is the foundation of society. >> It is what defines us as human beings. >> >> [Krimel] >> So where does "family" fit into a system of levels? Is it biologically >> determined, Socially mediated and Intellectually justified? What sense do >> these questions make? What does this add to our understanding of >> "family"? >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
