Matt said: I think it is important to emphasize it: in Pirsig's philosophy, Quality is synonymous with the making of distinctions, in any kind of distinguishing. In other words, the functioning of the "analytic knife" from the beginning of ZMM is a direct function of there actually existing Quality. (He brings up this point again in Lila when he talks about babies and differentiation.)
DMB said: Quality is synonymous with make distinctions and is basically the same thing as differentiation? Pirsig says that Quality is ahead of definitions. That's why, he says, the metaphyics of Quality is a contradiction in terms. This is the same reason that we already know what Quality is. These are all just other ways of getting at the HAD experience as opposed to the KNOWN experience, the precognitive and cognitive, as I've been saying. Matt: I think you're being hypersensitive. As I'll hopefully get around to in a moment in reply in our main conversation, I have for the most part no problem whatsoever with the had/known distinction, or between the know-how of non-propositional knowledge and the knowing-that of propositional. As I alluded to by referencing Lila, Pirsig does make fundamental to Quality differentiation. And I know you agree. If you can't differentiate between two things, between X and Y, blank walls and the Mona Lisa, you can't judge them. In fact, Pirsig's point is that the basis of differentiation itself is judging felt differences of value between X and Y. You just thought I was saying that Quality was synonymous with language, which I wasn't. Matt _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
