Bo,

Is this about having a MOQ Level to control the Intellectual Level to 
better control the Social Level to better control the Biological 
Level?   Is this the panic?

Marsha




At 06:23 AM 12/16/2007, you wrote:
>High Spirits
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>15 December. you wrote:
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> > Hey Bo, I posted this too, but haven't heard a
> > response from you so, I'm sending this again.
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>I just check and send mail once a day so I may be a bit slow, besides
>I'm hampered by the need to think, something most of you seem
>exempted from ;-) I don't know if you understood that the indented
>paragraphs were quotes from LILA, but at least they were and Pirsig's
>first statement was
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>     Now, it should be stated at this point that the Metaphysics of
>     Quality supports this dominance of intellect over society.  It
>     says intellect is a higher level of evolution than society;
>     therefore, it is a more moral level than society.
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>Intellect's purpose is to control - check - social VALUE (the term
>"society" is a bit ambiguous). All levels' purpose is to break free from
>the former level's limitations and in this process the former is seen as
>evil, Life (biology) abhors death ("inorgany"), but society abhors
>biology's "dog eats dog" existence just as much and intellect dislikes
>(to say it mildly) society's relentless pressure the individual to toe the
>common cause (my society right or wrong). Pro termo the islamist vs
>western value is the most prominent social/intellectual front.
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>However what Pirsig circles round in LILA is intellect exaggerating its
>job and that the intellect-steeped Western World will saw over the
>branch it is sitting on. Social value can't be controlled unto destruction
>lest existence slips back to the biological jungle that social value is a
>shore against. This happens because intellect doesn't know its role as
>a MOQ level - the levels are blind to anything but its own value - it
>operates as how reality REALLY is - as SOM. The MOQ will set things
>right by stripping intellect of its "M" rank and relegate it its proper place
>as MOQ's 4th level where it is safely domesticated.
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>To exceed my "jurisdiction" I will say that it is wrong to force-feed
>intellects's values (freedom in a modern democratic sense) on parts of
>the world where social value (Islam) is still a greater freedom than the
>dog-eats-dog existence of war-lords and such. IMO training camps in
>Afghanistan or Somalia or Sudan for Al Qeada is not important, its the
>new security measurements (back to a necessary social pattern) in the
>West that has foiled all terror attempts. Intellect's advance is
>guaranteed in the long run. But to see this context a correct
>interpretation of the MOQ is required and THAT is a tougher job.
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>Bo
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