Gav, DMB and Moqtalk
On 14 Jan.: Gav said:
> > i can't see it dave. i don't see how intellect can exist without
> > subjects thinking of objects. SOM was the evolutionary leap that
> > enabled intellect. intellect can't exist outside of this split: the
> > split is fundamental. i don't see how calling the split dynamic/static
> > changes anything. it is still a split.
Bo comments:
Gav has it right, intellectual value is the subject/object distinction,
but his phrasing ..."intellect can't exist without subjects thinking
about objects" sounds as if thinking is the hub. While the social
level was leading edge there were just as much thinking going
on, but it was not S/O-filtered.
Yes, DQ/SQ is also a dualism, but it changes absolute everything
Realities cannot exists except as dualisms. God needs the world,
Mind needs matter and Dynamic needs the static. That the latter
is the creation, aspect, function - whatever - of the former does
not change anything.
> dave says:
> Think about that analytic knife. That's intellect. It can slice up
> reality in any number of ways. Subjects and objects are just one way
> to divide experience.
The first about intellect as the analytic knife is right, and the said
knife is according to (ZAMM)
The knife of subjectivity-and-objectivity had cut Quality in
two and killed it as a working concept. If he was going to
save it, he couldn't let that knife get it.
But this confirms SOL and we can't have that can we? DMB
launches the assertion that ..."intellect can slice up reality in any
number of ways" in the hope that no one remembers ZAMM.
There was a lot more to comment, but enough DMB has declared
all pointings out of his goofs as incomprehensible, that's the only
way out for painters in corners.
IMO
Bo
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