Dmb: Gents, how many times and how many ways do I have to say it? These quotes, from four different philosophers, demonstrate in unequivocal terms that we are NOT prisoners to SOM. Obviously, James and Dewey are directly attacking SOM and the commentators see them that way too.
I really don't understand why you feel the need to dismiss this or explain it away. Why shouldn't MOQers be thrilled that Pirsig has company in this? Seriously. Why? Oh, never mind. I give up. I can't MAKE you think otherwise. All I can do is show you and I've already done that too many times. Ron: Dmb, I honestly understand what you are saying, your words are not lost on me. But what kind of awareness is it pointing to I ask? Do we assume the Mind of a pre-human over intellectual method? Or do we arrive at a state of awareness by what the intellections of James Dewey and Pirsig propose? If culture truly shapes what we see, feel hear and touch, how then Are we not trapped by it? It defines us as human beings. SOM is in the root of our culture, it is in our language itself. Language shapes intellect. I'm totally with you about radical empiricism, but you have to admit It is a renovation of formal analytic empirical method. It is not A revolution as it is an evolution A pragmatic assessment of analytical Thought and its assumptions. It renovates the system which as James Notes, what gives it it's practical usefulness because it works with The previously held body of knowledge. If it was truly a new system Entirely with no likeness to previously held beliefs it would hold No worth, it would be throwing out the past 2,000 yrs of previous SOM knowledge. Thnx Dmb, Don't give up on me. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
