Hi Ant, I wouldn't accuse Lennon of hypocrisy in "imagining" no
posessions either.

He was imagining "no posession" full stop - not the idea of discarding
his own - he was miles above such egotistical considerations. As he
said "it's easy if you can" - ie it's hard because you can't. As you
say, a koan. (Mr Kite too.)

Hypocrisy is essential to making any pragmatic progress (sadly) in
this SOMist dominated culture anyway. Unilateral gestures are just
that - gestures. The pragmatist makes best use of the resources at
hand - but doesn't lose sight of values.

Ian

On Jan 18, 2008 5:03 AM, Ant McWatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > I am the walrus, koo koo ka choo... give me a break!
>
>
> Micah,
>
> While agreeing, to some extent, about your comments about the lyrics in 
> "Imagine" and Lennon's hypocrisy about having no possessions, isn't the point 
> about a track such as "I Am The Walrus" is that it's psychedelic poetry (set 
> to music)?  It's not meant to make much "literal" sense (sober or otherwise) 
> but, rather, designed so that the intellect can play with the imagery that it 
> induces.  It can also be considered as a musical koan.
>
> Led Zeppelin is worth a "spin" every so often but nothing in their catalogue 
> approaches the fun that can be had with the Beatles psychedelic musical trips 
> (such as "It's Only a Northern Song", "Carnival of Light" and "Being for the 
> Benefit of Mr Kite!").   I consider such tracks timeless and, in the right 
> "setting", as Dynamic as a static set of musical patterns can get.
>
>
> Anthony
>
>
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:19:22 -0600
> > Subject: Re: [MD] The End of Faith
> >
> > Steven,
> >
> > I didn't say Lennon was stupid. You need look no further than his lyrics
> > ("love me do", "I wanna hold your hand", "Dear Prudence"...hell 90% of what
> > he wrote) and his trite pop music to know what a genius he was, but I don't
> > think his music, with a few notable exceptions, particularly Imagine and his
> > Christmas carol to Nixon, has aged very well. I like to "imagine" that when
> > they heard Led Zeppelin's music in the late 60's they decided to break up
> > before becoming more campy than they already were (Captain Beefheart exposes
> > the Beatles in his send up of "Strawberry Fields"), but my point is that it
> > was ironic that a billionaire was telling "average Joe's" to "imagine no
> > possessions", while increasing his possessions exponentially. Sorry to point
> > this out to you, but that is hypocritical.
> >
> >
> > Micah
> >
> > I am the walrus, koo koo ka choo...give me a break!
>
>
>
>
> .
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