gav said: i think we need to use a different word. 'faith' doesn't fit the bill. 'faith' is experiential knowledge. 'belief' gets closer to what you are talking about - every belief contains a lie.
dmb says: Faith is experiential knowledge? I don't think you'll find much support for that definition. The word can also mean loyalty, one's religion or express a certain level of trust but nobody thinks faith is experiential knowledge and the particular dictionary definition I'm using says faith is the very opposite of experiential knowledge. In any case, the problem that I'm talking about is belief in the absence of any such knowledge or even despite evidence to the contrary. Examples include the assertion that Jesus born of a virgin and died for your sins, that God created the world in 6 days just a few thousand years ago, and that communion wine turns into blood when a believer drinks it. That's the kind of faith I'm talking about, anyway. I think there is a much better way to refer to experiential knowledge. Why not just call it experiential knowledge? If that's what it is, wouldn't it just confuse things to call it faith? Aussie dictionaries and conventions can't be different to that extent, can they? _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
