Bo,
> SA previously:
> > After watching some Lewis Black youtubes, I came
> back to this forum and
> > read this. So, maybe it's how my mind is framed
> at the moment, but I'm
> > sure glad Rene had this revelation that he
> existed. Must of been
> > ground-shocking, and the heavens opened up and
> Rene looks around and
> > says - 'Oh! I think and thus I exist!' Well, I'm
> glad after many a
> > long period of doubt Rene figured out he does
> exist. Bo, this doesn't
> > have much to do with you, I just found this funny.
[Bo]
> I find this extremely shallow. What do you know
> about RD's
> speculation about existence's ground that ended in
> deep fear?
> You are of course lucky not to have had any
> experience like that,
> we may envy simpletons for not having the complexity
> of mind to
> suffer, but when they laugh at it. ...
SA: ahahahahahahaha!
Bo:
> In the next post you wrote:
> [Bo previously]
> > > No, intellect does not merely reflect (this is
> intellect's own pompous
> > > view) Intellect is a a value level that creates
> its own reality and its
> > > own TEs. See Pirsig's revelation resulted in an
> intellectual-based
> > > insight so extraordinarily "transcendent" that
> it could not be contained
> > > by intellect. We will soon start having
> Quality-based TEs. ;-)
>
> SA previously:
> > This is where you seem to be stuck. Your still
> basing the moq on
> > intellect alone, "Pirsig's revelation...
> intellectual-based
> > insight...", and "...Intellect... creates its own
> reality...". Quality
> > is not intellectually based. Quality is before
> intellect. Quality is
> > before any static levels. Quality splits and then
> the static levels,
> > then intellect realizes quality, but primary
> reality is not only of
> > intellect. Quality is also social, biological,
> inorganic, and dynamic.
Bo:
> Since day one (almost) I have claimed that the
> Quality Idea isn't
> an intellectual pattern, and the nonsense about a
> Quality before
> the MOQ you can take elsewhere. P. of ZAMM shows
> with unfaltering logic that the Newtonian
explanation of
> why things fall
> came to be with Newton. This inevitable leads to the
> correct conclusion that the Quality explanation of
existence
> came to be with the MOQ. Inside it all levels are
Quality
> levels, thats self-
> evident. If you manage to follow any logical
> argument?
SA: I'm not going to respond to you Bo, sorry, but
you don't make any sense.
take a chill pill,
haha,
SA
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