On Thursday 6 March 4:09 AM Bo writes to Spirit & Chris: <snip> In LILA the "mystics" are among those opposed to "doing metaphysics" and thus in the same league as logical positivism, albeit from different premises. I don't know when the "mystic" term was coined, but I believe it was in Medieval times when some individuals felt that dogma and rituals weren't enough for their religious hunger, thus a Christian monk, a Muslim sufi and a Hindu ascetic are all Q-social "dynamics" (if you must). But THIS dynamism was not what brought on the intellectual level. And intellectual "mysticism" was not what brought about the Quality Idea on, but young Phaedrus who was the most intense intellectual of his time. No, mysticism is stale, infertile, a dead end. Bo Hi Bo and All, I know of no intellectual possibility of experiencing the order of evolution. Order comes from an experience of the value in existence, DQ. A MOQ meta-level is an experience of order. Mysticism is not stale, but alive and well. I am thinking of the child running from a sound that resembles the backfire of a car. I am thinking of the grandmother holding out her arms to embrace the child. A few years later a pattern has developed in the child and he holds out his arms to embrace another, or not, no longer mystical but rational. Joe
On 3/6/08 4:09 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In LILA the "mystics" are among those opposed to "doing > metaphysics" and thus in the same league as logical positivism, > albeit from different premises. I don't know when the "mystic" > term was coined, but I believe it was in Medieval times when > some individuals felt that dogma and rituals weren't enough for > their religious hunger, thus a Christian monk, a Muslim sufi and a > Hindu ascetic are all Q-social "dynamics" (if you must). But THIS > dynamism was not what brought on the intellectual level. And > intellectual "mysticism" was not what brought about the Quality > Idea on, but young Phaedrus who was the most intense > intellectual of his time. No, mysticism is stale, infertile, a dead > end. > > Bo Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
