> [Krimel] > Gosh Chris I thought you were the historian. The history of western > civilization is the history of philosophy shattering into sciences.
[Chris] "Science" is a certain way of doing things based on the philosophy that is currently in charge in a certain culture. It feels a bit ridiculous to write this on the MOQ forum but: [Krimel] Science breaks away from philosophy when we develop methods of addressing philosophical questions head on. Physics developed both mathematical tools, like calculus and instruments like telescopes and clocks that rendered philosophical speculation irrelevant. [Chris] One can never escape metaphysics. [Krimel] Are you saying the philosophy has been reduced to metaphysics? Because, that is great news! A recent example would be scientists who dismissed string theory as metaphysics because it offered no testable predictions. If they are right and metaphysics is merely a set of ideas that purport to offer lofty explanations with no testable outcomes and no impact whatsoever on the world of shared experience then I would agree, perhaps we can't "escape" metaphysics but we can sure afford to ignore it. [Chris] How hard is that to get? [Krimel] It isn't at all hard to ignore. Have you read Ham's thesis? Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
