dmb and all, ???? I hope this was Squonk's point.? I hope Squonk knew this already.? This is why I didn't say anything.? Was he, hopefully, dragging this out of somebody to finally put into words, to post.? If not - well?? If his real intentions are brains in vats and some here found it thoughtful and interesting, please...? So, Squonk, Ian, say what the secert interest is already.? ???? I saw it as a point by Squonk to see how far this could go until he saw a post or posts to show him that alienation is degenerative.?
thundering woods, SA Hi SA, First of all, this experiment is my idea, and i do not understand why you have introduced Ian into the matter? I welcome Ian's views, and those of everyone who has wished to contribute so far, and those of everyone participating in the moq.org. There is no secret interest for the following reason: I don't know what the outcome of the experiment may be. This is the point: The point of experimentation is to reveal something new. That?a?thought experiment?should be?ridiculed or dismissed on the grounds that we already know its outcome seems rather arrogant to me. Thought is high level value according to the moq, so to experiment with thought can be seen as a form of art. Thought experiments have the advantage of not harming anyone unless they?happen to be?hurt by the very idea of the experiment itself, or experimentation in general. The current thought experiment is concerned with morals, so i can understand why some people may find this particular?experiment offensive. On a positive note, i will ask you to explain why you state: 'I saw it as a point by Squonk to see how far this could go until he saw a post or posts to show him that alienation is degenerative.' I ask you this because i think your contribution will be helpful SA. Before you consider answering i should like to make one more point: The phrase?'brains in vats' is crude shorthand for an arrangement of static patterns which may be said to be 'dynamic' in the sense that they maximise DQ. Such arrangements not only exist, but would seem to be moral imperatives based on moq tenets. One may therefore view the current experiment as an extrapolation. squonk Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
