[Chris] > When I talk about the Marxist theory I mostly mean the strive > towards abolishing the capitalist system (so that social values such as > profit isn't allowed to subjugate humanity's strive towards knowledge)
In comparing Marxism to a free society, this seems the area where Marxism is weakest. Marxism's record regarding innovation & accumulation of knowledge falls way short of the free market's. [Chris] > classic Marxism saying we need a several hundred year transition period > of socialism where the social values are reshaped to be more in the > intellectual levels favour. But imagine what progress a free society could make in those centuries. [Chris] > Lenin...a perfect example of a vessel for the intellectual level trying to > bring intellectual supremacy over social values about. Of course the > conditions weren't there (in Russian and the world) and he > happened to die young [Craig] You may be right about Lenin. I've never heard anyone defend him, so I know him from only his role in overthrowing Kerensky & executing without trial the Romanov family & their servants. (So much for workers.) Perhaps if he had lived past 53 years of age, he could have moved beyond these youthful antics to accomplish something of value. I should say I'm not against Marxists/socialists/communists. I believe Amish, Amerindian, hippie, etc. communes fulfill some people's values. Moreover, these people are able to peaceably co-exist with those who value a more individualistic society. Needless to say, I don't believe either kind of society should force anyone to join it. Craig Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
