Marsha:
17 July you wrote to Mati
> "The Prasagika Madhyamaka solely avowed technique is to show by prasaga
> (or Reductio Ad Absurdum) that any positive assertion ("it is", or "it is
> not") made about - or view proclaimed of - phenomena must be regarded as
> merely conventional (savti or lokavyavahara). Therefore there is no
> position that constitutes the ultimate truth (paramartha), including the
> views and statements made by the Prasagikas themselves, which are held to
> be solely for the purpose of defeating all views. The Prasagikas also
> identify this to be the message of the Buddha who, as Nagarjuna put it,
> taught the Dharma for the purpose of refuting all views.
Don't you understand that the passage you cite:
".. any positive assertion ("it is", or "it is not") made about - or
view proclaimed of - phenomena must be regarded as merely
conventional (savti or lokavyavahara).
Is what started young Phaedrus on his "lateral drift". He was an
extreme intellectual (one who believes that positive assertion CAN
be made (objective results can be arrived at) At that time he didn't
knowing anything about Eastern wisdom so he felt it was reality
itself being pulled from under him. Later on he arrived at the even
deeper insight that this (belief in the possibility of making positive
assertions) is the SOM and further, in the first moq, INTELLECT!
Had this been maintained MOQ would not only be in accordance
with Eastern wisdom but a step further. Intellect cannot provide
ultimate truths yet it's the highest and best static level All levels
fails on this "ultimate" point, if one pursues social value far enough
it turns biological. Biology blurs into inorganic, and inorganic
dissolves into chaos. Only the DQ/SQ configuration is the ultimate
one
> " This is intellect! See for yourself.
You maintain that the said Prasagika insight is an intellectual
pattern ...is that so? But if this is intellect (in India) and some other
realization is intellect on the Fiji islands, and a third view is intellect
in Uzbekistan then INTELLECT ITSELF is the mental faculty that
makes and holds these patterns, and we are back in SOM - its
mind and mind patterns called "thoughts" - and the MOQ is dead
and gone.
I honestly feel that this Eastern connection is what prevents the
MOQ from realizing it full potential. It is a step further than
Buddhism.
Think for yourself.
Bo
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