Marsha

On 20 July you wrote:

> No I never meant Prasagika insight is a  n intellectual pattern.  It is
> not an intellectual pattern.  (Forgive me, I am not a Buddhist or a
> scholar.)  I think the Prasagika's offer an intellectual path to such
> an _insight_. It's hilarious that I, with such a tiny skull (and the
> help of friends), would be one to pursue this path.  And you, with the
> big brains, won't venture past static, Western cliches about Buddhist
> philosophy.

"An intellectual path to such an insight". OK, that's different, as 
said it was the missing foundation under (what was to become) 
SOM or Intellect that was young Phaedrus' path, first to his lateral 
drift and later to the insight that SOM is an Quality off-shoot, what 
he called INTELLECT in the first MOQ.

But you said to Mati 

" This is intellect!  See for yourself"

Marsha ctd.:
  
> Bo, I believe no one.  I've been an extreme skeptic since I was a
> little girl.   And you have not presented a convincing argument.   But
> I am beginning to think that there is a lot of subject/object thinking
> happening here.

OK, you are a skeptic, but skepticism is usually directed against 
religious dogmas, astrology, healing and such that can't be verified 
scientifically. The scientist may be skeptical in the sense of not 
accepting claims (not even scientific such) but demand that the 
experiment can be repeated endlessly and yield the same result  
(ZAMM page ) 

    When I think of formal scientific method an image 
    sometimes comes to mind of an enormous juggernaut, a 
    huge bulldozer...slow, tedious lumbering, laborious, but 
    invincible. It takes twice as long, five times as long, maybe 
    a dozen times as long as informal mechanic's techniques, 
    but you know in the end you're going to get it.  

Yet, science (particularly physics) is sure that there IS an objective 
reality "out there" that is governed by laws that are independent of 
what we (subjectively) think about it ... AND THIS ATTITUDE IS 
INTELLECT!      

Get it?

Bo








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