At 01:03 PM 10/20/2008, you wrote:
Marsha:
When I say the nature of all patterns is conceptual, I'm saying that
patterns are mental in nature. They are held in minds. What an
individual pattern refers to can be categorized as inorganic,
biological, social and intellectual. This is important. The
pattern is the static part of the experience, it is not the experience.
woods:
Yes, pattern is the static part of the experience. Yet, I
still find organic
patterns, social patterns, inorganic patterns, and intellectual
patterns. You
seem to be focused upon intellectual patterns.
No I am not focusing on intellectual patterns. I'm stating that the
static part of all patterns of value are in human minds.
Marsha:
The referent of inorganic and biological level patterns are external,
natural phenomenon. Kind of like things. But there really are no
'things'. There are only ever-changing, interrelated, overlapping
systems and processes. Nature does not name, define or isolate.
woods:
A tree defines it's self with its' own patterned system. Yet, it is
rooted in the earth and part of a larger world. Independent things
aren't around. Yet, the tree does have its' own pattern that this
tree is developing without my intellectual patterning as to what this
tree pattern is. The tree will pattern whether I'm intellectualizing
about this tree, and thus overlaying my intellectual patterns upon
this tree or not.
A phenomena, like a tree, does not exist as an independent entity in
nature. Nature doesn't differentiate, humans do using static
patterns. Without the static pattern of value there is no
differentiated tree.
I don't think we can go any further. Our understanding of patterns
is too far apart.
Thank you, I've enjoyed the exchange.
Marsha
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The Universe is uncaused, like a net of jewels in which each is a
reflection of all the others in a fantastic, interrelated harmony without end.
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