Andre to Platt: I am referring here to your own experiece in America. And it appears to me that what you are hearing , seeing and feeling IS NOT REPRESENTED BY ANY HUMAN BEING AT ALL! It creates what it wants to justify and justifies what it has created in the name of intellect.
Platt: Examples? Andre: The example of Iraq, to which I have just responded. The example of the financial crisis, discussed widely here, where people nearly fell off their seats (so it seemed) finding out what had been going on behind the scenes and behind your own backs.The creation of money out of thin air and devising very complicated structures to somehow have this money materialise...with all the associated (world wide) consequences. In general, what I am getting at Platt, is the wheeling and dealing, the scheming,the manipulating in Governments' and business' back rooms. Things we are not privy to, we always seem to find out well after the fact. Platt: Harmony? The intellectual level as seen from the MOQ perspective doesn't recognize any moral levels at all --social, biological, or organic -- because it doesn't recognize morals except as being randomly subjective. Andre: Unfortunately you are correct Platt. Do you agree that the way forward is the MoQ way of thinking? That is what we are trying to do here I thought...to find ways of creating more 'harmony' with and within our parent level? Platt: He says suffering drives moral evolution. But you'll have to show me where he says one has to suffer to have pure experience prior to concepts. Andre: I didn't put this very clearly Platt. I should have said that the appreciation of freedom can only be fully understood after having suffered un-freedom. And I am referring to things we as Westerners take for granted. Here in China, I have to watch what I say in class! People here are allowed to think what they like but are not allowed to act on these if it is not approved by the Party. There is no freedom of movement, no freedom of speech etc etc. Hope I have clarified this. Andre Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
