Andre:
You have chided me sometimes for being a protagonist/protector of the social
level, perhaps to the point of being naive about it. Point taken! But I do
feel and say it again: if social PoV's are a mess you can bet your bottom
dollar that its offspring, the Int. PoV's are messy as well and I think
precisely because Int. PoV's still have not gotten used to the idea of
Quality and its subdivision DQ/SQ!
Int. PoV's are still battling with this basic question:
'And what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good-
Need we ask anyone to tell us these things?
woods:
Andre, I couldn't have said this better myself. Excellent Post.
Thus, the kill intellectual patterns from "Lila", and also
the starting from ones own heart, mind, and hands and going out from
there. So, in the U.S. "going out from there" means next steps would
be starting in the U.S. The U.S. gov't breaks the ultimate law of this
political land, and is corrupt with interest groups that want to tear
it apart and all its' intellectual freedoms. We have not yet begun
to finish the revolution. Thoreau called for this next revolution to
take place. He said the U.S. won the war versus Britain on the battlefield,
but we have not yet won the intellectual war. He called for a philosophy
that understood this earth, what the Amerindians had to say, and
to further understand in our own minds what this new freedom is about that
our the constitution declares. And so the U.S. goes on still fighting
the fight. John Adams locked up the press in jails for he disagreed with
them, Woodrow Wilson did in his signing of the Espinoage Act, FDR locked
up Amer-Japanese during WWII in interment camps, Bush goes rogue, etc...
He said this so long ago and what's so right. He talked about
how Concord still looked for the latest fashions in Paris (Pirsig talked
about this Victorian popularity), and thus they were so disconnected from
not only their local, but this Turtle Island and the extinction of many animals
(no wolves
and cougars or moose around here anymore). This U.S. revolution is not over.
It picked up in the American Pragmatic schools and Pirsig, etc... This U.S.
is far from being able to see clearly what blind meddling it does in this world
and thus, blindly it goes on empiring.
woods
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