I still find patterns to not be about subjects 
conceptualizing, but also objects and their patterns, too.
Thus, not subjects nor objects, but value.  Not this 
mental understanding, but an understanding of value is 
where I'm coming from, but mentally trying to understand 
is another way if you so desire.


woods



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From: MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 2:07:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] patterns revisited

At 01:54 PM 11/6/2008, you wrote:
>[Marsha]
> > I might find a better way to
> > demonstrate the idea that patterns are conceptual.
>
>Why not say all patterns are conceptualizable.
>This establishs a necessary relationship between
>patterns & concepts, without making them identical.
>Craig
>
> >From an advertisement in "Scientific American" (Nov. 2008):
>"'The Lightness of Being:  Mass, Ether, And the Unification
>of Forces' by Frank Wilczek
>Frank Wilczek, winner of the 2004 Nobel Prize in Physics,
>unwraps exciting new ideas, among them...that space is
>DYNAMIC...it opens new possibilities for making
>connections among PATTERNS that previously seemed unrelated.
>If our fundamental equations describe partial patterns that we
>can make more symmetric,...we're tempted to think that
>maybe they really are just facets of the larger, unified
>structure."

Greetings,

I cannot accept that patterns are just conceptualizable.  Take away 
conceptions and there is sight, hearing, smell, taste, or 
touch.  None of it making any "sense".  You see only shapes of 
color.  Even depth is conceptualized.  Depth is the patterned 
relationship between patterns.  New possibilities of connected 
patterns should be obvious because experience is the intersection of 
relationship.

Marsha






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