Bo, Gav, Ian and all, Gav I certainly understand your cynicism and it is well founded. Washington has become so static in various social bi-partisanship dominated by the Republicans over the past 8 years it is sad. Bush has shown such a lack of leadership that the US presidency vacuum of any true power and leadership. It is my hope that Obama gets this and will do better. I am betting that Obama will be one of the most watched and followed president we have had. I hope that he will lead with quality.
Ian wrote, " I genuinely believe Obama is well-intentioned, well-adjusted,intelligent, pragmatic, compassionate, etc and that he knows rhetoric from reality .... and I suspect sadly he is lready hamstrung by theongoing economic realities. But what should we do to help real change for the better ? Mati: Yeah you said it well. But that is the beauty of true leadership in action in that it can transcend various realities and reconstruct its own. Yes the economic condition is hurdle to be reckoned with, however real change for quality is possible given a vision and willingness and intelligence to persue it. Lets see what Obama has to offer. Bo, you wrote: "We ought to at least, but intellect's tentacles are tough and even Pirsig wasn't able to free himself from them by his insisting that the MOQ is an intellectual pattern. It started as one, but then took off on a purpose of its own. and "Neo intellect ... must you?" Mati: My apology but I couldn't resist. I am in agreement that MOQ was born from intellect and is not intellet SOM, but it does function as a new metaphysical tool that functions in some cases like SOM in that it we use it as a philosophical/reflective tool to delineate and define reality. To just say MOQ is MOQ and not intellect doesn't discribe how it functions (or it own purpose) or gives us a basis to understand its difference. Perhaps Neo Intellect isn't perfect but I thought it wasn't a bad shot. My father used to love to share the Estonian saying "to do better is never forbidden." :-) Mati Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
