Hi KrimelCase
On 15 Jan. you quoted LILA:
"The term "cause" can be struck out completely from a
scientific description of the universe without any loss of
accuracy or completeness. The only difference between
causation and value is that the word "cause" implies
absolute certainty whereas the implied meaning of "value"
is one of preference." - Lila.
> I think this quote points to Pirsig at his best and worst. It reveals
> his instinct for critical problems that demand a shift in modern
> thinking. There are issues with the notion of causality. But the
> problem is solved by correcting the misconception that "...the word
> "cause" implies absolute certainty..." That may have been true after
> Newton or even in the late 50's or early 60s when Pirsig was studying
> in Chicago. But a probabilistic understanding of causality solves the
> problem and puts the platypus in a proper cage. Causality simply means
> highly probable not absolutely certain.
You know my position on this issue. It's like a general trying to
monitor everything down to platoon level, while he should relegate
this to the chain of command. Causation as a scientific (physics)
tool works fine at the static intellectual level. The Q versions of the
various academic disciplines has no future, "Render unto Caesar
...etc" . MOQs business is the overall metaphysical context and
there it does a marvelous job.
> That is not to mention Bo's anthropomorphic levels, warring with one
> another and having desires and purposes. Extending awareness to the
> inorganic is bizarre enough but here we have someone extending purpose
> to abstractions.
It's difficult to avoid anthro .... When speaking about USA's "war
on terrorism" ... wanting to eradicate it, it's purpose to make the
world safe ...etc its sounds like a country personified. The static
levels and their relationship is what gives the MOQ it's enormous
explanatory power. Awareness has no place in (my) MOQ, its also
an intellectual value pattern.
IMO
Bo
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