On Tuesday 2 April Krimel writes to Joe: <snip> > [Krimel] > There seems to be a math epidemic. I suspect that your equations > might mesh with Andre's somehow but I don't see how attaching > numbers supports the idea of an undefined DQ. Quality is undefined. > DQ is change. High all,
Is a manifestation the same as order? Quality is DQ/SQ. DQ represents order, evolution, SQ represents a manifestation within an order. Logic is tricky in an individual manifestation and we have courts of law. Mathematics carries an aura for logic which is unassailable except for its premises. Figures don¹t lie, but liars can figure. I want to make a distinction between a description of an individual DQ/SQ moral order, and a manifestation within that order which is also DQ/SQ. The individual responds to law. I manifest in three ways active, passive, neutral. Laws for an individual being are laws for manifestations. I don¹t get put in prison for breaking a law of evolution. I live I die! Evolution is an order in existence! Behavior is an order of manifestation, active, passive or neutral. Consciousness is DQ at the social level. SOL is DQ at the Intellectual level. At the social level DQ is an undefined social aspect of an evolutionary order in existence. The result is a law of order with the appeal to 4 or 7 laws. I manifest as lawful, unlawful, or biding my time (asleep) at the individual level. Joe On 4/1/09 5:48 PM, "Krimel" <[email protected]> wrote: > [Krimel] > OK but I don't think DQ is undefined. Quality is undefined. I think > Pirsig conflated the two out of enthusiasm and others follow out of > blind obedience. > > [Joe] > [+1 (defined SQ) +0 (undefined DQ)] -1 (defined level of evolution) = 0. In > a MOQ manifestation in a level of evolution, the individual is negated and > undefined DQ is in an order of morality, existence. > > [Joe] > If DQ is defined +1 (defined DQ) + 1 defined SQ = 2 outside of order. Who > knows what evolution means with 2 in 0 order. > > +0 undefined DQ +1 defined SQ + 0 order = 1 individual manifestation, the > order is unnamed. > > [Krimel] > There seems to be a math epidemic. I suspect that your equations might mesh > with Andre's somehow but I don't see how attaching numbers supports the idea > of an undefined DQ. Quality is undefined. DQ is change. > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
