On Monday 30 March 2009 9:53 AM Krimel writes to Joe: [Krimel] > Right, every moment is loaded with DQ. We can elect to filter > that DQ through our static patterns of conception and habit. This > is certainly comfortable but can lead to total reliance on those > conceptual patterns. The moment becomes dynamic not by killing > static patterns completely, but seeing them for what they are and > rendering them transparent. > Joe Since DQ is undefined, one way to study the moment is to try to understand how SQ is transparent. How does it relate to me/DQ/the moment? How does it relate to the order of evolution MOQ? Is it active or passive or neutral? Yeah! All this in the blink of an eye. If sometimes Homer nods, do I sometimes nod over DQ/SQ. Can I train myself to stay awake a little more by study? Krimel] OK but I don't think DQ is undefined. Quality is undefined. I think Pirsig conflated the two out of enthusiasm and others follow out of blind obedience.
[Joe] [+1 (defined SQ) +0 (undefined DQ)] -1 (defined level of evolution) = 0. In a MOQ manifestation in a level of evolution, the individual is negated and undefined DQ is in an order of morality, existence. [Joe] If DQ is defined +1 (defined DQ) + 1 defined SQ = 2 outside of order. Who knows what evolution means with 2 in 0 order. +0 undefined DQ +1 defined SQ + 0 order = 1 individual manifestation, the order is unnamed. Joe On 3/30/09 9:53 AM, "Krimel" <[email protected]> wrote: > [Krimel] >> Right, every moment is loaded with DQ. We can elect to filter >> that DQ through our static patterns of conception and habit. This >> is certainly comfortable but can lead to total reliance on those >> conceptual patterns. The moment becomes dynamic not by killing >> static patterns completely, but seeing them for what they are and >> rendering them transparent. >> > > Joe > Since DQ is undefined, one way to study the moment is to try to understand > how SQ is transparent. How does it relate to me/DQ/the moment? How does it > relate to the order of evolution MOQ? Is it active or passive or neutral? > Yeah! All this in the blink of an eye. If sometimes Homer nods, do I > sometimes nod over DQ/SQ. Can I train myself to stay awake a little more by > study? > > > [Krimel] > OK but I don't think DQ is undefined. Quality is undefined. I think > Pirsig conflated the two out of enthusiasm and others follow out of > blind obedience. > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
