Hi Joe, I'm still having difficulty understanding the evolution of Quality. This would imply to me that new Quality is being formed, Quality that did not exist before. Has Quality evolved in the last 5000 years? I am seriously asking this because it does not fit with my current understanding, which may be erroneously Eastern (like the Tao) at this point.. I am rereading Lila which may help me out. My conception of harmony is the temporary coalescence of Quality. This coalescence and dissipation is ongoing, an ebb and flow kind of thing, rather than growth.
Thanks, Willblake2 On Mar 28, 2009, at 10:25:30 AM, "Joseph Maurer" <[email protected]> wrote: From: "Joseph Maurer" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [MD] Quality and Free Will Date: March 28, 2009 10:25:30 AM PDT To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> On Friday 27 March 2009 10:36 PM Markhsmit writes: <snip> > Why does Quality trend towards harmony, or growth, or being in > phase? That is obvious. The intense love between between two > people is the sharing and harmonic growth of Quality. Quality loves > itself, it runs with the pack. > Is there anybody out there to harmonize with this post? Hi Markhsmit, The existence of quality also evolves to distinct levels. That makes harmony possible. Different levels of existence. Joe On 3/27/09 10:34 PM, "markhsmit" <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Joe, > > That's exactly what I meant! Nothing (left) to lose, not even Bobby.. > > Quality (as expressed through free will) trends towards harmonics (for lack of > a better word). This harmony has no human value associated with it, it can > be bad or good, beautiful or ugly. It attracts and connects, reverberates and > grows in a crowd. It is the reason for the crowd, and then it subsides. > Quality is like a wave, when it meets similar waves of itself, it is > additive (does not cancel) and Quality Grows. Take for example an orchestra > playing in the same key, the individual music is additive and intoxicating for > the players and crowd (who add to the growth of the Quality). Take for > example a group of people enjoying a hike, the Quality shared between is > additive, its much more fun to share. Quality is additive in a football > stadium amongst the crowd, and is additive in a panic during a fire. Quality > seeks this harmony. Harmonic Quality is present during a presidential > election, and on a battlefield to the death. Harmonic Quality is the reason > religions and philosophies grow. It is the reason for communal greed > and possessiveness, for the shared fear of death. > > Quality is shared through the exchange of ideas, it can be considered > contagious except that it is not passed along, but is the source. Language is > the vector for exchange. Ever meditated with a group of monks? > It's incredible. That is the harmonic growth of Quality. It's how Quality > trends. We know when we are in this group Quality, we feel swept away, part > of a larger thing. We know exactly what it is. We stick together and > consider our Quality to be better than those others, it is the way it works. > We seek like-minded because of this tendency of Quality. Our free will, is > to grow that wave, or not. > > Quality is the reason mass is condensed energy; it is energy, (or atoms if you > will) in harmony. Quality is the reason the sun coalesces into a ball of > flame, and why the planets circle together continuously (resembling a wave, > mathematically). It is the reason galaxies spiral. It is action shared, it > is in harmony, because that is its tendency. > > Quality arrises from nowhere. Where is the wave on a guitar string before it > is plucked? the music? The same place Quality is. The string is struck and > sound comes forth, in the same way the wave of Quality appears out of nowhere. > When guitar strings mix, you have music, if it fits together (like minded) it > grows. Where are the waves on a still lake. They are there as potential.. > Where is the electron when it is not there? It is there, it is simply a flat > wave (straight line), but there. Where am I when I'm not here? It's the same > thing. > > Why does Quality trend towards harmony, or growth, or being in phase? That is > obvious. The intense love between between two people is the sharing and > harmonic growth of Quality. Quality loves itself, it runs with the pack. > > Is there anybody out there to harmonize with this post? > > Oh, well... > > Willblake2 > > > > > > > On Mar 27, 2009, at 12:22:21 PM, "Joseph Maurer" <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Thursday 26 March 2009 10:59 PM Markhsmit writes to all: > >> Free will, which is another name for Quality, provides us with the >> will to believe. We are free to believe in God, in Evolution, in >> Happiness.. We are free to believe that scientific positivism is >> the only reality, or one of many. Quality arrises in us through >> Intent. Sometimes this Intent makes it as far as >> our intellectual mind. We consider choices, and make them. Every >> choice shuts down the alternative (you can't gain something without >> losing something), but the choices thereafter are infinite. We take >> the left fork in the path of an ever forking road. That free will >> is Quality's expression. That free will began long before us. >> Sometimes we call it Chance, or Chaos, or the Divine, or Self >> Assembly, or a Selective Process. All Selective Processes are no >> different from our own. They are all free will. > > > Hi Markhsmit, > > A song to ponder: > > Busted flat in Baton Rouge waiting for a train, > Feeling just as faded as my Jeans! > Bobby thumbed a Diesel down just before it rained. > Took us all the way to New Orleans! > > I took my Harpoon out of my dirty red bandana, > And was playing soft while Bobby sang the Blues! > With those windshield wipers slapping time, > And Bobby¹s hand enclosed in mine, > We sang-up every song that driver knew > > Freedom¹s just another word for nothing left to lose! > Freedom ain¹t worth nothing! But it¹s free! > Feeling Good! Was easy, Lord! when Bobby sang the blues! > Brother that was good enough for me! > Good enough for me, and Bobby McGhee! > > Joe > > > On 3/26/09 10:59 PM, "markhsmit" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Free will, which is another name for Quality, provides us with the will to >> believe. We are free to believe in God, in Evolution, in Happiness.... We >> are >> free to believe that scientific positivism is the only reality, or one of >> many. Quality arrises in us through Intent. Sometimes this Intent makes it >> as far as our intellectual mind. We consider choices, and make them. Every >> choice shuts down the alternative (you can't gain something without losing >> something), but the choices thereafter are infinite. We take the left fork >> in >> the path of an ever forking road. That free will is Quality's expression.. >> That free will began long before us. Sometimes we call it Chance, or Chaos, >> or the Divine, or Self Assembly, or a Selective Process. All Selective >> Processes are no different from our own. They are all free will. >> >> Willblake2 >> >> >> On Mar 19, 2009, at 9:30:14 PM, markhsmit <[email protected]> wrote: >> From: markhsmit <[email protected]> >> Subject: [MD] Quality and Free Will >> Date: March 19, 2009 9:30:14 PM PDT >> To: [email protected] >> Quality exists. We break it down into subjective patterns to discuss it, >> little boxed systems. We interpret Quality through our senses, our dynamic >> interplay with what is. It is this subjective patterning that is our true >> free will, we are free to interpret the way things seem. In fact that is the >> only free will we have. Whether we turn right or left, feel good or bad, >> makes no difference because we are still within our interpretation. However >> that interpretation can change on a dime. >> >> Why does that freedom of interpretation exist? Does it exist in everything. >> Does it exist in Quality? How much of it is free? How much do we have >> rational control over? How much does survival control our freedom? >> >> At the interface of what's outside us and within is constant communication. >> That communication results in feelings (or emotions, passions). Our >> intellectual brains are extensions of those feelings, nothing more, which >> break them up into a million parts. When I change my mind or become >> temporarily enlightened, it's not because I have collected enough facts (how >> many is enough?), it's because it feels right. Our free will comes from the >> interface. It is neither within nor without, it is that dynamic interplay. >> It is like music which comes from the interface of the speaker and the air, >> or the interface of the air and our eardrums. Somewhere in between.. Free >> will is no more our actions than the forces outside, it comes from somewhere >> in between, and we feel it. It is that freewill that creates Quality. 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