John to Andre:
Simple. I reject the teaching that everything flows from the self, and
affirm the teaching that the self flows from everything.

Andre:
Interesting John. So the concept of your 'self' flows from everything. Is it
that this everything is then the totality of your self or are
you consistently selecting from this 'everything' your 'self' ? (you
know...analogues upon analogues upon etc etc)

John:
It is the "gotta" that is a big problem.  When choice is lost, play is
degraded.

Andre:
Agree.

John:
"Only"?   Hey dude;  God is "only" a concept.

Andre:
...by which we measure our pain..........?

What is a 'dude'?

Cheers, hope you had a good weekend John.
Andre
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