Hi Ron 

11 July you wrote:

> Ideas arent first, experience is first, then ideas. Ideas about
> experience are ideas. thus the idea of anything coming before
> experience is, in fact, an idea. 

I admire your courage to display such logical faults. If the assertion of 
anything coming before experience is an idea, then the assertion of 
experience as primary is an idea too, ergo ideas are primary! Don't you see 
that this idea nonsense is a solipsism black hole that nothing can escape? 
Exactly as with language, even Krimel understood - and shut up - when I 
pointed to the fact that language is used to express (in this case) the 
Quality Context, therefore the Quality/Concept assertion is stillborn. (of 
which Experience/Idea is a derivative)     

Bodvar






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