Platt said: Anybody see any evidence supporting anything said here? Has anyone ever seen DMB change his mind about anything?
dmb says: Arlo made a claim, provided reasons for his claim, and supplied Pirsig quotes as evidence of this claim. My claim was that you would not be persuaded by these reason or the evidence backing them up and now you have proved my claim by doing what you always do. The fact that you deny it even as you're doing it really cracks me up. I swear, man, if somebody pumped 20 or 30 I.Q. points into your brain, you'd die of embarrassment. And yes, I've changed my mind about a lot of things. Ask Bo. He condemns me for it. Back in 1991, when Lila was published, I didn't think the USA could get any more religious, more intolerant or move any further to the right. Boy was I wrong about that. > > > > Arlo said to Platt: > > Who was that "lesser storm" contrasting? "Liberals" and "conservatives". An > > upheaval "not so great" as the one between socialism and fascism, but a > > difference only of degree, according to Pirsig. [AND] I mean, both fascism > > and conservatism are programs for the dominance of society over intellect. > > Both were (are) aggressively anti-intellectual. Both were (are) aggressively > > nationalistic. > > > > > > > > > > "Communism and socialism, programs for intellectual control over > > > society, were confronted by the reactionary forces of fascism, a > > > program for the social control of intellect." (Pirsig) > > > > > > "Phaedrus thought that no other historical or political analysis > > > explains the enormity of these forces as clearly as does the > > > Metaphysics of Quality. The gigantic power of socialism and fascism, > > > which have overwhelmed this century, is explained by a conflict of > > > levels of evolution." (Pirsig) > > > > > > "In the United States the economic and social upheaval was not so > > > great as in Europe, but Franklin Roosevelt and the New Deal, > > > nevertheless, became the center of a lesser storm between social and > > > intellectual forces." (Pirsig) > > dmb said: "Platt is unpersuaded by evidence or reason." _________________________________________________________________ Bing™ brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_MLOGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
