On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:48 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]>wrote:
> > Platt said: > Anybody see any evidence supporting anything said here? Has anyone ever > seen DMB change his mind about anything? > > dmb says: > > Arlo made a claim, provided reasons for his claim, and supplied Pirsig > quotes as evidence of this claim. My claim was that you would not be > persuaded by these reason or the evidence backing them up and now you have > proved my claim by doing what you always do. PH All the quotes below prove is that communism and socialism are intellectual programs for control of society. Not surprisingly, those are programs you and Arlo support. "Conservatism" doesn't appear in the quotes at all. DMB > The fact that you deny it even as you're doing it really cracks me up. I > swear, man, if somebody pumped 20 or 30 I.Q. points into your brain, you'd > die of embarrassment. > PH Yeah, because then I'd be ten times smarter than you. DMB > And yes, I've changed my mind about a lot of things. Ask Bo. He condemns me > for it. Back in 1991, when Lila was published, I didn't think the USA could > get any more religious, more intolerant or move any further to the right. > Boy was I wrong about that. > PH Well, I've changed my mind, too. I used to think you had modicum of brains. > > > > Arlo said to Platt: > > > Who was that "lesser storm" contrasting? "Liberals" and > "conservatives". An > > > upheaval "not so great" as the one between socialism and fascism, but a > > > difference only of degree, according to Pirsig. [AND] I mean, both > fascism > > > and conservatism are programs for the dominance of society over > intellect. > > > Both were (are) aggressively anti-intellectual. Both were (are) > aggressively > > > nationalistic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Communism and socialism, programs for intellectual control over > > > > society, were confronted by the reactionary forces of fascism, a > > > > program for the social control of intellect." (Pirsig) > > > > > > > > "Phaedrus thought that no other historical or political analysis > > > > explains the enormity of these forces as clearly as does the > > > > Metaphysics of Quality. The gigantic power of socialism and fascism, > > > > which have overwhelmed this century, is explained by a conflict of > > > > levels of evolution." (Pirsig) > > > > > > > > "In the United States the economic and social upheaval was not so > > > > great as in Europe, but Franklin Roosevelt and the New Deal, > > > > nevertheless, became the center of a lesser storm between social and > > > > intellectual forces." (Pirsig) > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
