Andre, An example of what I'm trying to get accross is that SOM's idea of "subjective" only operates when one takes objective reality as FACT. MoQ does not take objective reality as FACT but an idea about experience.
If you take objective reality as FACT, you are in a SOM system of thought. Thats what you do when you hold evolutionary theory, as FACT. Why do you think it makes so much sense? it's what we were taught to believe. It makes perfect logical sense, thats why it's such a nonsense and foolish notion.. "illogical" you say, To make the statement that an idea of an object is a concept we have about experience. I think E=Mc2 pretty much proved that objective reality is an illusion, a concept. Matter is energy. Atoms, electrons, particals are "feilds of force" for lack of a better term...and thats just it...terms are ideas. What we see...is partially composed of ideas, ideas and immediate experience. Science is limited by what it can observe and say about phenomena that is why they choose the metaphor of math to define and describe observations and measurements. But those calculations are not the phenomena they are a way of grasping and understanding phenomena. they found the partical wave duality is not a duality but a kind of "gestalt shift" two ways of interpreting one phenomena. http://www.roangelo.net/logwitt/gestalt-shift.html Thus the "many truths" that Bo does not understand. Which is more true of the duck/rabbit illustration? is it a duck or a rabbit? which is true? Bo says only one is true, Pirsig says they both are, truths are many..the point is to find the highests quality ones until something better comes along, ones that explain phenomena or experience more inclusivly. Ones that have greater meaning. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
