Hi Matt,

This would seem to support Margolis' alethic theory of relativism: a theory 
about the nature of truth.  Knowledge being based on perceptual experience 
which leads to an epistemological relativity.  But I am still going slow with 
Mr. M.    


Marsha





On Dec 31, 2009, at 6:43 PM, Matt Kundert wrote:

> 
> I ran across something interesting today.  I didn't realize this, but 
> Protagoras' famous aphorism "Man is the measure of all things..." has an 
> ambiguity in the English (at least for amateurs who only read translations 
> and dabble in Greek words).
> 
> I'd always assumed that what standardly gets translated as "measure" was 
> related to the Latin "ratio," and that old saw about how "reason" and 
> mathematical "measuring" are ancient relations. etc.  Well, the Latin "ratio" 
> is the translation of "logos," which all us amateurs recognize as one of the 
> more famous Greek words: reason, thought, account, measure, word, etc.
> 
> The Greek word translated as "measure" in Protagoras' aphorism is _not_ 
> Logos, but 
> 
> Metron
> 
> "Metro" in modern Greek is still "measure."  However, what I ran across which 
> made much of what the actual Greek word is was an alternative translation by 
> Mario Untersteiner (often considered a renegade scholar by respected 
> Anglophones I've run across), who wrote a book on the Sophists that is almost 
> impossible to find in English for under $50 (been out of print for half a 
> century):
> 
> "Man is the master of all experiences..."
> 
> I have no bead on what Greek word (or phrase) "things" or "experiences" 
> translates.  All I can identify is "metron" and "anthropos" (the 
> gender-neutral "man").  But I imagine "experiences" sounds even better to 
> Pirsigians, whatever one might think of "measure vs. master."
> 
> Matt
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