Plattitudifier, I believe this is the heart of contention:
> Because capitalism preserves Dynamic Quality it can't help but get us > somewhere better. > You make a valid argument that this has been the case in the past, but does it follow that such is the case now? The economic/political system - the society, has succeeded, has done well, has gotten everybody rich. In America, there are no poor. I know, I'm poor, but filthy rich compared to the poor in many other places, and through no merit but the luck of being born into a successful system. But the values underlying that system, have been eroded by the very successes of the system, and thus the system's collapse is inevitable, and I doubt we can recreate the same system, with the values we've got now. My argument against conservatism, ties in to what I posted about "homotheism". Taking sq as your value-set rather than DQ. Conservatism values the static past as good and just assumes (concludes fallaciously rather) the same patterns will serve the present good. But true quality can only be served by asking what is best NOW. Not what was best yesterday. Yesterday's good was good, and understanding it's meaning in the context of yesterday will help us in figuring out what today's best is. But trying to figure out where to go by looking to the past alone, is only going backward, not forward. And thanks, as always, for your dialogue on the matter. The objective analysis of social patterns is the highest good of our intellect's uses. Loyally yours, John Carl Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
