Hello Jon, Mary
- The most important thing you will ever make is a realization. > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:moq_discuss- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Jon Bennett > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:43 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MD] A fly in the MOQ ointment > > Hi Marsha, > DW identifies 15 different aspects, but doesn't limit reality to just > those-there could be more. Aspects are the levels, the different way > reality > can be expressed. There is a logical, a numerical, an aesthetic, an > ethical, > a juridicial, linguistic, physical, bioitici=-, political, etc. aspect > to > reality. Prisig seems to reduce all reality to only one, the aesthetic. [Mary Replies] In Chapter 8 of "Lila", Pirsig says: The Metaphysics of Quality subscribes to what is called empiricism. It claims that all legitimate human knowledge arises from the senses or by thinking about what the senses provide. Most empiricists deny the validity of any knowledge gained through imagination, authority, tradition, or purely theoretical reasoning. They regard fields such as art, morality, religion, and metaphysics as unverifiable. The Metaphysics of Quality varies from this by saying that the values of art and morality and even religious mysticism are verifiable, and that in the past they have been excluded for metaphysical reasons, not empirical reasons. They have been excluded because of the metaphysical assumption that all the universe is composed of subjects and objects and anything that can't be classified as a subject or an object isn't real. There is no empirical evidence for this assumption at all. It is just an assumption. --- I imagine I am oversimplifying DW, but it appears that he bases his metaphysics on a system of interpretive classifications - as in - the Universe can be understood from different points of view. Where DW slices reality based on points of view (POV), Pirsig does it using patterns of value (also abbreviated as POV - an odd twist, that!). Thanks for joining in the conversation! I would be interested to hear more. Mary Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
