Hey DMB, I'm not ready to give up, despite the fact that I understand your view (from a February post of yours) to be, "Given that this is supposed to be a place to discuss metaphysics, to debate philosophical issues, all this other stuff seems like a distraction." Are you and John becoming a distraction? Was I? Maybe? Nah. It's all good. Philosophy is the stuff of life. If it doesn't tell us anything about how to live, then what good is it?
[DMB says] ... Those William James > quotes were supposed to show you what SOM is, exactly, and it was > supposed to show you an example of a non-SOM philosophy. Mary says: Sorry, but that's not the way you framed them, and, anyway, they prove my point exactly. James was no Pirsig. Nice stuff. Sort of Proto-Pirsig. Yes, James had the same basic insight, but he didn't go anywhere with it. Where's the James framework of the levels? Where's the James framework for understanding the Static vs the Dynamic? He was not convincing. No QUALITY. Believe it or not, I once read James - and found him wanting. Very. I put his book up on the shelf along with Ayn Rand. The seed of the idea but no tree to hang it on. He said nothing useful to me, and usefulness is what it's all about. IMHO. Cheers! Mary - The most important thing you will ever make is a realization. > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:moq_discuss- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of david buchanan > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 7:55 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MD] A fly in the MOQ ointment > > > Mary said: Hey DMB! > > You know what? I write two really long posts trying to explain why I > think The Intellectual Level = SOM and your response is to quibble > about William James? Well, delighted to see you agree with me! ;) > Bait...bait...bait :) > > > dmb says: > > Sometimes it's better to aim straight for the heart of the matter > rather than quibble about every little detail. Those William James > quotes were supposed to show you what SOM is, exactly, and it was > supposed to show you an example of a non-SOM philosophy. If the > intellectual level and SOM were the same thing, wouldn't it be > impossible to show you what I just showed you? Doesn't that counter- > example prove that such an assertion can't be true? > > I think so. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your > inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL > :ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
