On Jun 24, 2010, at 10:16 PM, Mary wrote:

> Hi Bo, Marsha, Craig, and all,
> 
>> 
>>>> Having had such a realization, it's easy
>>>> for him to say!!!  I don't think making an intellectual switch from
>>>> objects (thing-in- itself) to patterns (ever-changing, relational,
>>>> unbounded, impermanent) does the trick.
>> 
>> If you mean that Pirsig did not dare repeat the intellect=SOM in LILA
>> because it had once sent him to the hospital? If so I agree most
>> vehemently.
>> 
>>> [Mary Replies]
>>> Agree with that!  Changing one intellectual construction for another
>>> is to pay lip service.  Doesn't change a thing.
>> 
>> Hmm, had I just been sure what this means. At least, the "orthodox"
>> intellectual level is much like SOM's MIND and consequently
>> everything becomes "mind-intellectual constructions". But MOQ's 4th.
>> level as SOM is a QUALITY construction!
>> 
> [Mary Replies] 
> I took Marsha's statement to be along the lines of: just making the
> _intellectual_ switch from calling things subjects and objects to calling
> them patterns of value is still to replace one SOMish type analogy with
> another.  It's easy to _intellectually_ call things patterns of value
> without having any appreciation for how that might differ from calling those
> same things subjects and objects.

Marsha:
Yes, this is exactly what I meant, and why I've spent so much time 
investigating the nature of all patterns.  


 
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